I saw a comment elsewhere to the effect of "the Juice has expired."
TonusOH
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Super Duper Awkward
by Slidin Fast indid anyone else find the teen section on the meeting tonight massively cringeworthy?
i saw two kids who will be laughing stocks for life after their world wide exposure.
complete exploitation in my opinion, unforgivable..
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TonusOH
JW teens aren't going to mock those two. They know it is just an acted part.
But this just makes the WTS seem painfully out-of-touch. Is that what they think happens in high school? "You're a Jehovah's Witness? That's HOT! Let's do it right here, before the next class-- wait! Don't leave! Please come baaaaaaaaa..."
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TonusOH
I guess he'll never find the real killers now.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
I think the "my book" shirt is pretty funny. Good use of the classic color scheme. I wouldn't buy one, though.
I don't have an issue with his desire to create a merch shop. I would ask why it took so long, but I think he realizes that it's not a great idea. exJWs --particularly the newly-out who are likely drawn to his channel-- will not be inclined to advertize their situation with merchandise. Especially t-shirts. They will probably recognize it as a tasteless or tone-deaf move. So this isn't for them.
This is for the remaining saps who still send him money and haven't given up yet. It's a way to take even more of their money while he continues to struggle to produce content. In order to draw more interest and sales, he'll need to branch out. But what can he add that isn't JW-related? Merchandise attacking religion? Promoting atheism? Pushing his vendetta? What? What can he produce that people would want to buy?
I can't think of anything. And a merch shop will not resolve the issue of the slow content rollout and the lack of enthusiam and lack of direction he has been showing for months, now. It just means that when the grift finally ends, the amount of money he will have drained from people's wallets will be that much larger. I can't say it enough: this is the man you are supporting with your dollars. At this point, you deserve to get ripped off.
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Murderous Jehovah's Witness bludgeoned female customer before leading meeting. Spiritual paradise?
by Balaamsass2 in1/31/2024 in the strange but true category.
confused holy spirit appoints killer servant.
"" a twisted jehovah's witness bludgeoned a woman he rowed with over incomplete building works to death with a hammer, then merrily whistled as he packed up his tools and went to lead a service at the church where they met.
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TonusOH
We might be reading too much into this. The guy sounds like a certifiable maniac. It's tragic that this wasn't discovered until he murdered someone. I wonder how those JWs feel that were at the meeting he led, knowing that they were in the presence of a deranged psycopath.
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas inprobably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
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TonusOH
PetrW: But I think your question was mainly directed at whether Christ was somehow deliberately hiding the time of His coming.
I was trying to show a flaw in the JW approach. The concept of an invisible presence seems odd until one learns of the attempts to set dates in the 1840s and 1914. In both of those situations, the concept of an invisible presence was used as a way to imply that the prediction had not been completely incorrect. The claim was that the event (Christ returning) had indeed occurred, but it had happened so quietly that even those who expected it hadn't noticed.
It's the sort of obvious nonsense that we normally see through, when the stakes aren't as high as we believe them to be. If our hopes and dreams are dependent on a prediction coming true, we are willing to extend our credulity surprisingly far.
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Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.
by Balaamsass2 in3/28/2024 central california coast.
found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.
ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".
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TonusOH
Yep. That concept --that witnesses should not take one another to court and handle matters in-house-- gives con men and scammers a distinct advantage. They are able to carry out their schemes with a reduced risk of being reported, until/unless it is established that they are not JWs.
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When JW.org drops 607BCE...
by Nathan Natas inprobably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
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TonusOH
It does follow that if Jesus said no one would know the day and hour, and if his presence began invisibly, that he was not intending for his followers to know. Or... he told them to always be ready and that they wouldn't know the day or hour, but also left coded instructions throughout the Bible to guide people to the actual day and time, because he sure is a sneaky li'l feller!
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If you don't GERRIT you remain in the LOSCH of Watchtower
by Longlivetherenegades inif you don't gerrit you remain in the losch of lies and manipulations of the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses .
today only one organization is exclaiming about this real peril.
this is the new world society of jehovah’s witnesses.
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TonusOH
It's good to see him admit that they're just another religion.
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TonusOH
I think it's more useful to have some kind of system where we can make more reliable determinations. They won't always be perfect, but there should be ways that we can separate claims. Going by what we want to believe would leave us with an endless list of claims for almost every possible event from the past. And it seems to me that historians are not that scattered in terms of what is considered reliable or not.
I think our personal experience does help, if we take into account how we deal with such claims in our day-to-day lives and in other facets of our lives. How willing are we, normally, to lend credence to claims that have little to no corroboration? Do we approach similar claims differently based only on which ones we favor? We should be able to establish a pretty comprehensive sets of norms that most people can easily agree on.