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  Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.

  evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.

  biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.

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  The "one model" creationists are "stuck with" is one where a being of infinite power and unlimited magical energy is able to create anything that anyone can imagine and make it work regardless of how impossible it might seem.

  It has no explanatory power and no predictive power, since it cannot be explained except in the broadest and simplest terms. It relies on actual science to fuel its own interpretations of how things work, because without actual science, there is no understanding of how things work. It has changed many times, not because we learned anything about God, but because we learned something about the universe.

  This renders the model useless. Without it, we would still know everything we know about the universe and our world, because we learned those through the application of the Scientific Method. Indeed, we could use any of the ancient creative tales to explain the universe under these circumstances. Why isn't the universe actually the carcass of a massive dragon that was slain by a god?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I think this is the X thread that is being referred to:

  x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1856672931734081648
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  Trump wins

  by gavindlt in

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  i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.

  i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.

  how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!

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  That billion dollars was spent in 107 days, if I am not mistaken. A staggering waste of money, and the impression I get is that it was mostly due to mismanagement and/or poor oversight and control. As unpopular as Harris is within the party, I would not be surprised if the next few months are filled with leaks about how the money was misspent.

  It had to be humiliating to send out fundraising emails after the election was lost. "Sorry, dear supporter. We blew through the billion you already donated and find ourselves $20 million in debt. Can you help us cover the shortfall?"
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

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  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  There was a video of Biden walking on the beach, and he seemed to struggle with maintaining his balance. Jill grabbed his arm at one point, but it seems like they wanted to show that he was okay by letting him go on his own. He almost fell once or twice. And his face tends to be expressionless more often than not; he seems to always be miles away.

  Still more popular than Harris, though.
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  Trump wins

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
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  i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.

  i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.

  how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!

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  The Republican majority in the house will be small, anywhere from 218-217 to 220-215 or thereabouts. They have a 53-45-2 majority in the Senate (plus the VP, who votes whenever there is a tie). There will be Republicans who will need to be convinced on some votes, especially in the Senate where Collins, Murkowski, and Romney are not Trump supporters.

  I think this allows us to dismiss the hysteria around Trump running roughshod over the country. His majorities are slim and will require some give-and-take on occasion. The most likely strategy by the Democrats will be to delay and impede anything he tries to do for two years and hope that they take back congress in the midterms. I think they probably will make gains in 2026, as that is usually the case whenever an election ends in one party having control of the White House and congress.

  I can't help but get the impression that Trump learned a LOT of lessons from his first term, and appears to be focused on getting his team in place and avoiding the mess from 2017, where he struggled to get his administration staffed. He is prepared to hit the ground running with a set of plans that he intends to try and get done as soon as he is in office. I am hopeful that this new and focused version will make things better. But four years is at once a very long time and a very short time.
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  2024 year Highlights: JWs hit 9 million Publishers

  by Sanchy in

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  watchtower put out some highlights for the 2024 service year:.

  average publishers: 8,828,124. peak publishers: 9,043,460. a 43.2 percent increase in "those who returned to jehovah", meaning 65,816 were reinstated.

  baptized: 296,267. memorial attendance: 21,119,442. missing stat: number of partakers .. womp womp.

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  Do these numbers reflect the recent change to witnessing? Or did they hit the 9 million before those went into effect?
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  Do you see it?

  by MeanMrMustard in

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  If I squint, I just end up falling asleep at my desk.
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  I think the constant "end is THIS close" talk is the one that comes to mind the most. In part because of the way they try to rationalize the fact that the end still has not come. They talk as if the end will happen within months, if not weeks or days. If you wonder why it's taking so long, they say that it isn't taking long, not from Jehovah's point-of-view.

  Of course, if you are taking that approach, then the end might not be for hundreds --or even thousands-- of years. After all, a day is as a thousand years for God! Oh, what's that? We're almost at the end of the sixth creative day? So it has to be any second now? Then why are you telling me about how patient Jehovah is, if that has nothing to do with when the end will happen???
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  WATCHTOWER JAN 2025: WHY IS THE WATCHTOWER OBSESSED WITH THE RANSOM?

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/ocufvpm3t04?si=75zmussxknhlsrs7.

  the first watchtower for 2025 is out, and immediately, articles 4 and 5 drew my attention.

  these will be studied near the memorial season, a time the witnesses prepare for their yearly commemoration of jesus’ death, i will be returning on this articles near at the time.

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  Sea Breeze: So, when we choose to reject God, who is good... we are at the same time rejecting everything that is, good.

  Are we, though? What does it mean to reject God? Let's say that I do not believe that this god is real, but I live my life in accordance with his desires. Perhaps I will not be rewarded with an eternity in heaven, but have I earned an infinity of torment?

  Sea Breeze: Some people may feel that this gives God an unfair advantage in the relationship.

  I don't have an issue with this. It's simply unavoidable that God has the advantage, and I don't consider it unfair. I just think that we have to understand what this means for us. If we define God in certain ways, we should be aware of what this could mean for our future, especially if it is going to last forever.

  Sea Breeze: God is not asking us to be something other than what we are.

  It wouldn't make sense for him to ask that, since he is responsible for what we are. I am more concerned with God's actions and how those define him. A God who is not bound by human standards of behavior and morality can only really be understood by his actions and attitudes. And I think the God that is described by Christians raises some very worrisome questions.

  If God's primary concern is that I recognize him and recognize his greatness, and my eternal future rests on this act, it says something about him and his nature. It is not a question of whether he is justified in acting this way, but we must recognize that this being does not subscribe to the same definitions of good, or just, or kind, or fair as humans do. As described, this being is highly likely to condemn everyone at some point for falling short of standards that we cannot possibly meet. And there's nothing we can do about it. That's scary.
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  PRESIDENTIAL predictions...let the prognosticators have their say!

  by Terry in

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  my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.

  etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.

  ) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).

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  I have to say, I honestly think Biden --even as brain-addled as he seemed-- would have gotten many more black votes than Harris did. It's not that the primary process was circumvented (as if that hasn't happened at least a few times over the past three elections, eh Bernie?), it's that the candidate offered up was just bad.

  I mean, really... if you need Stephen A. Smith to be the voice of reason...