What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

by Sea Breeze 90 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    I would like to start a thread on lies that the Watchtower and their reps have told. Surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

    My favorite WT lie: The reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the New World Translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

    In 1954, in a Scotland trial, Fred Franz, then head of the Watchtower Editorial Board, admitted that he himself was the one who had checked the accuracy of the translation and recommended its publication. (Douglas Walsh v. The Right Honorable James Latham Clyde, M.P., P.C., etc., Scotland, 1954, (1958 ed.).p.88.)

    The following is from the trial transcript: -


    (Q): Insofar as translation of the Bible itself is undertaken, are you responsible for that?
    (A): I have been authorized to examine a translation and determine its accuracy and recommend its acceptance in the form in which it is submitted.
    Later, Franz was asked about his own involvement in the translating(Douglas Walsh v. The Right Honorable James Latham
    Clyde, M.P., P.C., etc., Scotland, 1954, (1958 ed.).p.92)
    (Q) : Were you yourself responsible for the translation of the Old Testament?
    ( A ) : Again I cannot answer that question...
    Here, under oath, Franz refused to confirm or deny he was the translator of the Hebrew text. Why wouldn't he say that he did not translate the Old Testament? The court also wondered "why" and asked :
    (Q): Why the secrecy?
    (A): Because the committee of translation wanted it to remain anonymous and not seek any glory or honour at the making of a translation, and having any names attached thereto.

    Oh! The humility.

    What's your favorite WT lie?

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    When out in field service I remember as a young sapling of a kid hearing the householder being told ""we are not here to change your religion"".

    Then I had this thought rolling around in my head "" then what the F are we in service for then?"".


  • a watcher
    a watcher

    1914.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Or here how about this one by a JW lawyer;

    ""We dont shun, normal family relationships continue"".

    Just screams lie !!!! Ahhh caught.

    🤪

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    How about that cringe-inducing, insincere line most GB members say at the end of each GB update:

    "We love you all very much."


  • mann377
    mann377

    They put god's name back in the bible. Excuse me but that name was made up by a 13th century monk. It never appeared in the bible.

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    wt 98 2/1 p.19, par. 6 - "Further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the Law covenant. In what way? Not by becoming participants in it but by submitting to the laws associated with it and benefiting from its arrangements."

    Exodus 12:48, 49, Deuteronomy 29:10-15, and Ezekiel 47:21-23 show beyond the shadow of a doubt that this dogma of the WTBTS/JW's blasphemes the Holy Scriptures in order to create the false type/antitype of the foreigners & the other sheep.

    This lie then perpetuates their Black Memorial, where every O.S. JW rejects the New Covenant.

    Rahab and Ruth were foreigners and were accepted as full members of the nation of Israel and participants of the Mosaic Covenant.

    If they hadn't been, the Messianic lineage would have been corrupted by non-Israelites. They and their descendants all received inheritances in the nation of Israel.

    p.s. Of course the biggest lie the org has ever told is that God & Jesus personally chose the WTBTS in 1919 as their "earthly organization." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Try proving that with Scriptures, JW's!

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Elders are simply affirming the decisions that have already been made in heaven.

  • Riley
    Riley

    The way they don’t really explain what was really taught prior to 1914 and how many other failed predictions were taught prior to it.

    Once you learn about this , you realize they just cooked the books to arrive at the so called understanding.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    Elders are simply affirming the decisions that have already been made in heaven.

    Good one, Desirous.

    Following on from that - that all appointed men are directly appointed by holy spirit. What, even the ones that turn out to have been hiding serious crimes while serving, and - in the case of WWII, the Cold War and more recent wars and totalitarian regimes - even when they turn out to have been spies for the military or government all along?

    A ridiculous teaching, made up only to try and silence any questioning of appointed men and their (often all too human) decisions.

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