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  Dateline's Necessity

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a new necessity for the dateline expose'.. fairness to catholics.. the blitz of media attention has focused almost exclusively.

  on the catholic church and its priests.

  yet, other centralized.

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  Smitty

  Hi all,
  this Dateline thing is not about fairness. It has nothing to do with it. This is about ratings. If NBC doesn't see to viewers and advertising dollars, it doesn't make sense to them. We see it for different reasons. Ours is PARTLY revenge on the WT. Revenge doesn't sell ads.
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  Child abuse policy

  by Smitty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the pope is considering adopting a child abuse policy similar to jw's.

  they've already accepted the policy of 'one strike youre out'.

  now they're considering applying it to those cases that involve pass offences.

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  Hi all,
  The Pope is considering adopting a child abuse policy similar to JW's. They've already accepted the policy of 'One strike you’re out'. Now they're considering applying it to those cases that involve pass offences. It appears the public likes it and most Catholics approve of this policy. If they do, all will be well in CatholicLand. So, we mines well accept it too. JW's are really looking good now. NO Dateline for sure. The only ones that would be interested in it is JW's. No money in that.

  Look and see: http://www.msnbc.com/news/732931.asp
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  The courtyard and the holy city in Rev 11

  by Smitty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is the courtyard the same as the holy city in rev 11?.

  quote:(niv)rev 11:2 - "but exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the gentiles.

  they will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

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  Smitty

  Hi peacefulpete,

  You said,
  You might enjoy learning that serious scholars have understood Revelation as the covert condemnation of Roman rulers in the first and second century.

  where can I read about this type of information?
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  Being dis-fellowshipped or dis-associated

  by Smitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those that are dis-fellowshipped or dis-associated: do you speak to jw's even though they know you're disfellowshipped or dis-associated?

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  Smitty

  NameWithheld,
  I have noticed the group response also.
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  Being dis-fellowshipped or dis-associated

  by Smitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those that are dis-fellowshipped or dis-associated: do you speak to jw's even though they know you're disfellowshipped or dis-associated?

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  Smitty

  I'm very friendly by nature. When I see them, I smile and say a big, "Hey, how are you?" Most of them speak back. They will even answer questions. Last night I had an extensive conversation with and elder and his wife. It was very friendly and open. It seems if it doesn't bother me, it doesn't bother them. If I let them just walk by without saying anything, they won't say anything to me. I consider it there problem not mine. I'm not carrying that weighty rule on my back. 95% respond this way.
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  Being dis-fellowshipped or dis-associated

  by Smitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those that are dis-fellowshipped or dis-associated: do you speak to jw's even though they know you're disfellowshipped or dis-associated?

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  Smitty

  For those that are dis-fellowshipped or dis-associated: do you speak to JW's even though they know you're disfellowshipped or dis-associated?
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  Dateline story

  by Smitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we can probably forget the dateline story for a while.

  if it came out now, jw's would look like saints in comparison to the catholics.

  at least jw's delete the servants and not move them from congregation to congregation.

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  Smitty

  Hi all,
  we can probably forget the dateline story for a while. If it came out now, JW's would look like saints in comparison to the Catholics. At least JW's delete the servants and not move them from congregation to congregation. Yep, JW's look pretty good in comparison. It wouldn't be much of a story right now.
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  The courtyard and the holy city in Rev 11

  by Smitty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is the courtyard the same as the holy city in rev 11?.

  quote:(niv)rev 11:2 - "but exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the gentiles.

  they will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

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  Smitty

  Hi all,
  Is the courtyard the same as the holy city in Rev 11?

  Quote:(NIV)Rev 11:2 - "But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months."
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  The temple in Revelation 11

  by Smitty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the temple in revelation 11:1-4. paul discussed in hebrew 8,9 the true tent or true temple.

  now as to the things being discussed this is the main point: we have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the majesty in the heavens, a public servant of the holy place and of the true tent, which jehovah put up, and not man.

  for every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; wherefore it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer.

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  Rev 11:1
  " I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, "Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the worshipers there.".....

  Rev 11:19
  " Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm."
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  The temple in Revelation 11

  by Smitty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the temple in revelation 11:1-4. paul discussed in hebrew 8,9 the true tent or true temple.

  now as to the things being discussed this is the main point: we have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the majesty in the heavens, a public servant of the holy place and of the true tent, which jehovah put up, and not man.

  for every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; wherefore it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer.

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  Smitty

  The temple in Revelation 11:1-4

  Paul discussed in Hebrew 8,9 the true tent or true temple. “Now as to the things being discussed this is the main point: We have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, a public servant of the holy place and of the true tent, which Jehovah put up, and not man. For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; wherefore it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. If, now, he were upon earth, he would not be a priest, there being men who offer the gifts according to the Law, but which men are rendering sacred service in a typical representation and a shadow of the heavenly things; just as Moses, when about to make the tent in completion, was given the divine command: for says he: “See that you make all things after their pattern that was shown to you in the mountain…. For if that first covenant had been faultless, no place would have been sought for a second….” (Hebrews 8:1-7)

  So can we also say of the second, which is the heavenly temple, “For if that second covenant had been faultless, no place would have been sought for a third” ? Never may that be said. For the heavenly temple is the true temple of God’s making. Is there a necessity for a third? Never will that be the case. Also notice, it says the earthly temple was a representation and shadow of the heavenly one.

  “Thus the holy spirit makes it plain that the way into the holy place had not yet been made manifest while the first tent was standing. This very tent is an illustration for the appointed time that is now here….They were legal requirements pertaining to the flesh and were imposed until the appointed time to set things straight. However, when Christ came as a high priest of the good things that have come to pass, through the greater and more perfect tent not made with hands, that is, not of this creation, he entered, no, not with the blood of goats and young bulls, but with his own blood, once for all time into the holy place and obtained an everlasting deliverance for us. (Hebrews 9:8-12)

  So, my question is, is there a better and more perfect temple than the second heavenly temple; Or for that matter, a necessity for one?

  The temple in Revelation 11:1-4 can only be the heavenly temple with the earth being its courtyard. For any temple approved by Jehovah must reflect the pattern of the original tabernacle Hebrew 8:5