Posts by jp1692

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Organizational Accomplishments - Building a Solid Digital Foundation

by wifibandit in

organizational accomplishments - building a solid digital foundation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aai46ng2f74.

organizational accomplishments—building a solid digital foundation video will be considered the week of september 11, 2017.

jp1692

Wow, God got a computer! And now he's teaching us to use the internet. Oh, boy!!!

This organization is so hopelessly behind the times technologically and yet they strut and crow like they invented the damn stuff. And their so controlling about it even George Orwell would shudder. Note this comment @ 7:27"

"Back in 2008, 25 individuals were approved to receive email on their mobile devices."

And of course, this is all on a closed, in-house system that can be monitored by the WT leadership. Paranoid much?

There is also a very curious comment by the man speaking at 8:45"

It's probably NOT what he meant, but it sure sounds like he is saying:

"The future looks even more promising as we continue to humbly seek Jehovah's erection ... "

Well now. Things are really, ... ahem ..., looking UP!

Listen for yourself and see what you think!

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Anyone recall someone disfellowshipped for gluttony???

by James Mixon in

gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???

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jp1692

I wonder how many of the GB members are obese, that is with a BMI of 30 or higher?

For a man that is 5'11" that is only about 215 lbs (97.5 kg). From pictures I've seen of ToMo III, Mark Sanderson and Sam Herd, I would suspect they'd all tip the scales north of a BMI of 30.

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Anyone recall someone disfellowshipped for gluttony???

by James Mixon in

gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???

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jp1692

No I haven't, but there sure are a lot of JWs that are extremely obese. Not that obesity and gluttony are one and the same, but there is certainly a strong correlation.

And I'm not must saying a little overweight, I mean morbidly obese.

It's noteworthy that the WTBTS has avoided that particular "deadly sin." Here's an interesting "confessional" on the subject by a Christian pastor:

5 Reasons Why Pastors Don't Preach on Gluttony by Joe McKeever, Pastor

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What religions/organizations aren't a cult?

by Jules Saturn in

so we've already established that most religions can be classified as high control groups, we can name the wbts, church of scientology, lds, etc.

the list goes on and on.

but are there any religions or organizations that aren't classified as a high control group or aren't as bad as the ones i've just mentioned?

jp1692

To BBW:

Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source

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Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

by John Davis in

i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

jp1692

JD: I also did not intend to focus solely on the recording of conversations

Perhaps, but it was the very first issue you brought up in your OP.

JD: do you think that the ends always justify the means? [Bold addd]

Not always, but certainly sometimes. Again, the use of the world "always" shows that problematic black-and-white, all-or-nothing thinking that I and others on this thread have repeatedly cautioned against.

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How to Record a Judicial Meeting

by 00DAD in

introduction: this subject came up on another thread and seemed important enough to justify its own thread:.

judicial hearing procedure, chapter 7. recording devices.

"recording devices should not be allowed.

jp1692

Bumping it for John Davis who asked the question below on this thread:

Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

JD: I wanted to get people's opinion on something. How do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the Watchtower? There have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with Elders and with Branch offices or at meetings. They have done this in states or countries that require two party consent to record conversations and where the penalties can be a criminal prosecution.

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Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

by John Davis in

i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

jp1692

JD: the question still stands do you think it is right to break the law if you think it is for a good cause.

Well, you asked the question and you've gotten answers from quite a few members of this forum: eight pages worth. That's pretty good results.

The overwhelming response from members of this forum is: YES, most of us would, have and do break laws that we think are wrong, but we are willing to accept the consequences.

So why do you now keep pressing it? It's just getting annoying.

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Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

by John Davis in

i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

jp1692

Listener: I feel the whole motive behind your post is to scare individuals off from recording their JC

Well if that's the case, then any lurkers that are having reservations should read this old thread:

How to Record a Judicial Meeting

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boyfriends jehovah witness mom

by whatisthis12 in

my boyfriend is an ex new jehovah witness and today i got a message from one of his friends asking if i could delete a comment he wrote on one of my pictures because my boyfriends mom is harassing him about it.

he also basically told me that she has people who added me just to view my profile and let her know!!!!

she also sends him messages and pictures from the watchtower.

jp1692

You could tell them to mind their own f*@king business, but cult members don't like when others tell them what to do, (even though they have no problem doing just that themselves).

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Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

by John Davis in

i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

jp1692

JD: JP are you saying that viewing the law as black and white is a sign of not being mentally healthy.

No, I am reporting the consensus of mental health professionals worldwide: a black and white worldview is not mentally healthy! It does not matter if it's about the law, customs, music ... whatever.

Rigid, inflexible thinking leads to mental health issues. It is positively correlated with depression, anxiety and Borderline Personality Disorder.