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  Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

  by Jules Saturn in

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  so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

  to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

  david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

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  This:

  Giordano: The overlapping generation is a very weak made up excuse for getting 1914 wrong. They have painted themselves into a corner and have to remain there.
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  Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

  to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

  david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

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  Jules: That's so weird, because every Witness I know swallows it up and believes it firmly.

  Because it's a cult. You cannot question the leadership of a cult. You must blindly accept everything they teach no matter whether it makes sense or not. The WT even said this a couple of years ago:

  • "At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. - Watchtower, November 15, 2013, p. 20, paragraph 17"

  Listen, obey and be blessed: It's a cult!
  
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  Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

  to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

  david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

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  Jules: Can someone sort this out? Why doesn't this teaching make sense?

  No. no one can sort it out because it's nonsense.

  It is a desperate attempt by the WT leadership to cling to 1914 because they cannot ever admit to being wrong. Their self-deceptions and delusions are pathological.
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  Leah Remini Scientology series might tackle Jehovah's Witnesses in season 3

  by jp1692 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've seen comments by some on leah's expose on scientology: aftermath.

  she actually won an emmy for this show.

  rumor is that she might take on jehovah's witnesses in season 3. .

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  I've seen comments by some on Leah's expose on Scientology: Aftermath.

  She actually won an Emmy for this show. Rumor is that she might take on Jehovah's Witnesses in season 3.
  

  This could be interesting!

  • Leah Remini Scientology series might tackle Jehovah's Witnesses in season 3

  
  
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  Planning Your Exit

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  did you have a plan to leave the organization?

  i did.

  it took a couple of years but we did leave and never had a desire to go back!.

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  OTWO: But definitely, do not agree to meetings with elders to help you back. Better to just say no thanks.

  Rule #1: The elders are not your friends.
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  JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "thou shalt spy on and report your brothers and sisters to hq.".

  https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/local/industrial-court-finds-there-are-limits-to-freedom-of-religion/article_5a485b94-a327-11e7-9c32-57b15184bc6a.html.

  editor's note: due to the nature of this story we've changed the names of the parties involved.

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  BC: I remember the article in the WT that MrRoboto mentioned. I think it was in the 1980’s. Hope someone will come up with it.

  Bill Covert referenced it on the previous page.
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  "exjws" and money making Ponzi schemes.

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok i want to pose a question to those who care to discuss this.. imagine a scenario.

  you hear of a exjw writing a book, however, before writing this book this exjw is requesting money to publish said book.

  you go along with it and help to get this book out to the public as you think that it will be beneficial.

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  So I noticed that ThisIsMeIn1972 did NOT say what the book was about, just that it was written by an ex-JW. Theoretically, it could be about anything: basket-weaving or vegan cooking.

  That being said, I also noticed that most of the replies assumed a subject and a particular author:

  • Who would want to read such a book … someones [sic] grievance with the watchtower cult?
  • I can't think of anything that needs to be said in book form on the subject that hasn't already been said.
  • It could be considered "activism" …
  • It is also interesting that certain activists are complaining about how YouTube isn't paying them for their videos.

  TIMI, why don't you just say it: you're talking about L l o y d E v a n s, aren't you?

  BTW, it's spelled Ponzi scheme.

  Prepare to be berated by the followers of the Cult of Cedars. (I'm sure I'll get a bunch of "dislikes" for saying as much; just wait and see).
  
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  "exjws" and money making Ponzi schemes.

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok i want to pose a question to those who care to discuss this.. imagine a scenario.

  you hear of a exjw writing a book, however, before writing this book this exjw is requesting money to publish said book.

  you go along with it and help to get this book out to the public as you think that it will be beneficial.

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  I wouldn't have donated to the first one. I prefer to pay for things that actually exist, not vaporware.

  I'm guessing this is not a hypothetical situation.

  That being said, 2,000 copies of a book by an unknown, or previously unpublished, author on a very specific subject with a very narrow audience is not all that bad.
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  JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "thou shalt spy on and report your brothers and sisters to hq.".

  https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/local/industrial-court-finds-there-are-limits-to-freedom-of-religion/article_5a485b94-a327-11e7-9c32-57b15184bc6a.html.

  editor's note: due to the nature of this story we've changed the names of the parties involved.

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  Here's a link to an article from 2004 about a JW bookkeeper that worked for a doctor and told the elders about a patient that had a STD:

  • Clash of religion, privacy creates difficult exposure (Michael Bradford, 1/4/2004

  Dr. Gerald L. Bullock, who practiced medicine in Denison, Texas, in the 1980s, said he was stunned when a bookkeeper at his office released patient information to her church elders.
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  JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "thou shalt spy on and report your brothers and sisters to hq.".

  https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/local/industrial-court-finds-there-are-limits-to-freedom-of-religion/article_5a485b94-a327-11e7-9c32-57b15184bc6a.html.

  editor's note: due to the nature of this story we've changed the names of the parties involved.

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  Apparently this was in either Trinidad and Tobago. Good for the justice system over there!