Posts by jp1692

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Stupid, stupid nonsense in the October JW broadcast

by sir82 in

so in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.

restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.

applicant: that's insulting!

jp1692

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Waton, true dat!

They are all just imitating whoever is the next level up the food chain.

Ultimately, Jehovah (although a mythical invention of the human mind) is an extremely evil character.

God "loves" you but will kill you for the slightest infraction.

If a human parent acted like Jehovah, their children--if they survived--would be placed in foster care and the parents put behind bars so quickly it'd make your head spin.

The "god" of the Bible is a horrible invention of ignorant, delusional and apparently mentally ill humans seeking to explain complex and often devastating events they couldn't understand.

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Is there anything good JWs taught you still benefit from?

by venus in

some years ago, i attended a jw wedding.

marriage speaker said something which changed my life for the better, and it helps me even now.

he told the couple: “the very make up of man and woman is such that conflicts can often arise between you.

jp1692

Yes, but not anything that couldn't have been learned elsewhere without the severe and long-lasting negative effects.

For example:

POSITIVE - I got lots of experience in public speaking while a JW.

NEGATIVE - My entire nuclear family was destroyed by this cult. Why? Because I realized it is a cult based on lies and so I left. As a result I am shunned by my children and (now ex-) wife.

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Debating a Christian at work.

by pseudoxristos in

a christian at work has been after me for more than a year to go to his church and be saved.

i like the guy and consider him a friend and have been politely trying to avoid the subject.

i have recently decided that enough is enough and i told him i would discuss religion with him.

jp1692

Tell him you'll gladly discuss the Bible with him if he will also study a textbook on organic chemistry and biological evolution with you.

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Stupid, stupid nonsense in the October JW broadcast

by sir82 in

so in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.

restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.

applicant: that's insulting!

jp1692

Well, in a very practical way Jackson is right. Those "taking the lead" in the JW religion--elders and ministerial servants--aren't really leaders. They are the sycophantic followers of the real leaders, the Governing Body (although I frequently think they are just puppets, but that's another topic for another time).

That being said, note the Orwellian doublespeak in their usage of the term "faithful and discreet slave" in reference to themselves in their role of telling their followers what to believe, how to behave and think, and the endless list of minutiae concerning what good, little dubbies can and cannot do. The "slave" is in practice the master.

It's a cult!

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Instructions For Merging Congregations

by wifibandit in

instructions for merging congregations s-67-e 9/17.

jp1692

SBF: I reckon there aren't many other churches where a congregation would be dissolved without even consulting the congregation. Says a lot about respect and dignity.

Right. WT leadership doesn't care at all about what the local congregants want or care or feel. Their wishes are clearly unimportant and not worthy of consideration.

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Tutorial for Making Donations Electronically

by wifibandit in

tutorial for making donations electronically video will be considered the week of october 16, 2017.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_z32hlqw-0.

jp1692

ToesUp: WT has hit a new low!

True, but I predict they haven't found bottom yet. There's still lower they can go.

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We missed you at the meetings...

by punkofnice in

how many times have you heard that trope?.

i found it more irritating than a dose of farmers on the bum.

i've even said it when i was a brainwashed jobo drone.

jp1692

The Office Space clip reminded me of this:

I haven't missed a meeting in years!

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Does Morality Exist?

by Fisherman in

some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..

jp1692

Yes it does. You raised the question so you need to prove it doesn't.

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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching

by Jules Saturn in

so this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.

to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.

david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.

jp1692

You're welcome Jules!

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EVENT: Middle Tennessee Conference - Understanding Abusive Spiritual Systems and Relationships

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

http://www.icsahome.com/events/midwest.

middle tennessee conference .

understanding abusive spiritual systems and relationships .

jp1692

To all,

I was able to attend the ICSA conferences earlier this summer in Bordeaux, France. Obviously, it's a big commitment to go to one of these events; but if you can, I heartily recommend it.

You will meet former cult members from MANY DIFFERENT CULTS, but participants are also mental health professionals, researchers and family members of those affected by cults. And I mean all kinds of cults: religious, political, ideological, charismatic movements, therapy cults and criminal gangs to name just a few.

It's really a transformative experience in many ways. One of the really important take-aways for me was this: although various cults seem very different superficially--doctrines and beliefs, dress, rituals and practices, etc.--they are all pretty much the same underneath. They are all about one thing and one thing only: absolute control evidenced by your blind, unquestioning obedience.

Thanks for posting this Barbara!