Diogenesister: I was using air quotes so you knew I was being facetious.
Yes, I knew that because I'm familiar with your postings.
Sorry if it wasn't clear. I was running with the joke.
jp
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Diogenesister: I was using air quotes so you knew I was being facetious.
Yes, I knew that because I'm familiar with your postings.
Sorry if it wasn't clear. I was running with the joke.
jp
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Nacho: Consider Bo Juel's book ...
That's an interesting comparison, but I don't think it sheds much light or clarity on the matter. Not only are they different people, but Lloyd is a native speaker of English, Bo is not. I believe he is Norwegian.
Here is an interesting link to a previous thread where Lloyd introduces us to Bo:
The corresponding link to the jwsurvey article about Bo has been removed. No surprise there!
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Diogenesister: There seems to be a battle at the moment as to who is going to be ' the 'voice' of the exjw community.
Puh-leeze!
There is no such things as "The Voice" of the ex-JW community. That's laughable. Leave one cult and join another.
But if there is anyone that could be a candidate for speaking clearly, calmly and articulately about our post-cult issues, I'd vote for Paul Grundy of jwfacts.com or Barbara Anderson. Lloyd Evans or the rest of the self-appointed motley crew of activists you mentioned would be summarily scratched off my list.
But we all have a voice. Some of us just choose to use it in different ways.
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I daren't say anything about this distracting jerking because he is so sensitive
Is he just “jerking” in his videos, or does he do that when he’s sexting too?
Maybe he only needs one hand to send his sext messages—he’s a one-handed sexter! 🤪
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Diogenesister: I daren't say anything about this distracting jerking because he is so sensitive to criticism.
Yes he is. And why, praytell, do you think he is so sensitive? And more importantly: what does it mean?
i saw an article in the news yesterday that laws are going to be passed subjecting the police to being recorded by anyone while performing their duty or enforcing the law and encourages citizens to sue if they interfere.
some law enforcement agents become angry and confiscate recording devices from people recording them while making an arrest, etc.. it does seem that the work that the police and other government agents do is public and not private or confidential so there should be nothing to hide from the cameras.
on the other hand, how can one distinguish being shot by a camera or by a weapon until one is hit?.
As long as they aren’t interfering, yes. Absolutely yes!
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jwundubbed, you raise a legitimate question concerning copyright ownership. Evan’s failure to address these issues can have potentially serious legal consequences.
The fact that Evans doesn’t even address them shows both his ignorance and the amateur nature of his approach to publishing.
Whenever an established, legitimate business seeks content from the general public through a contest or something there’s always a ton of fine print addressing just these sort of issues and concerns.
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jwundubbed, your comments reminded me of something I'd previously written on this point:
Many people that leave a cult are emotionally stunted cases of arrested development, particularly those that are born into it. Lawrence Wright, journalist and author of Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief (2013) wrote, “a lot of former cult members are ‘living in the shadows’,” that is they have never really learned to have a full and complete life outside of the cult. No longer in the cult and not either in the larger world, they have a “shadowed” existence midway between the two worlds. We need to find a way to put an end to the pain that these people are suffering and enable them to live to their fullest potential.
Expounding on this idea, Mike Rinder, a former senior executive of the Church of Scientology, commented:
It's a lot of work to recover from leaving a cult, so much so that some people never fully recover. They spend their whole life "living in the shadows," never really having the life they could and should have.
These people need help to come out of the shadows. We can do that by shining a light, a bright light, on the dysfunctional beliefs which keep them confined to living on the fringes of life.
[Word Count: 206 words ... LOL]
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jwundubbed: We learned to be abusers. You don't stop being an abuser until you put in the time and effort to stop being an abuser.
I really appreciate your response and comments. The other side of the abusing coin is the victim mentality. Those are two of many cult cultivated (did you see what I did there?) traits and behaviors which take much work to identify and overcome.
Your next comment is also insightful:
And pointing out other abusers doesn't make you less of one. You still have to do the time and work of changing your behaviors.
I'm always amazed at how easy it is to see negative, dysfunctional behaviors in other people and hard it is to see it in ourselves.
We all need mirrors ... that and the desire and courage to see the truth about ourselves. In my experience, most people don't want to know.
aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.
do you have any?.