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  Bible comes alive if we look for meaning behind the symbols it uses

  by Ireneus in

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  bible contains too much human thinking presented as though from god, thus much of its information brings dishonor to god.. yet it contains great beneficial truths behind the symbols it uses.

  let us take the only two cases of miracles jesus performed without any request from anybody which would show the very purpose of his ministry:.

  1) jesus healed a woman who “was bent over and could not straighten up at all.” (luke 13:11-13).

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  Ireneus: Whether such miracles did happen or not is not important.

  Actually, it does. That's kind of the point.
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  Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.

  she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.

  its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.

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  I've read through this thread with great interest. I appreciate reading thoughts and feelings shared from the perspective of a child raised in a cult. Thank you all for posting.

  As a parent that initially raised my children in the religion, but then realized it was a cult and left, I am faced with the tragic irony which is the polar opposite of those of you that have posted here: my children are extremely angry at me because I left the religion! (They are still in it nine years after I left ... I tried to get them to leave with me, but have so far been unsuccessful.)
  
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  If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i guess it would depend for me.

  some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.

  many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.

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  First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Socialist.

  Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

  Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Jew.

  Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

  
  Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) was a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.
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  Suggestions for horror/supernatural movies

  by Addison0998 in

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  2. entertainment

  hey guys, so now that i’m pretty much atheist and i’m not scared of demons or supernatural things, or bring them into my house by watching movies or reading books about them lol, i defenitly want to watch a few scary movies.

  i’ve always loved scary movies, but as witness, you don’t get to watch many since they need to be pg-13 and have no spiritism in it lol.

  does anyone have any suggestions?

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  Punk: I love the old British Hammer horror films with Cushing and Lee.

  Oh yeah, my older sister took me to see some of these when I was just a lad. They scared the crap out of me ... and I loved them.

  Here is one of my favorites, the death scene from Dracula:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssvgMHCa45s

  I just rewatched it after not having seen it in 50-ish years. I was surprised at how well I remembered this sequence. Probably because end is burned into my psyche just like the sunlight the proved to be the Count's end!

  I was just about 10 when my sister took me to see "The House that Dripped Blood!"

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNO3yw0Cg5I

  Another classic is "The Wicker Man":

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx1oU1IiZ3k
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  If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i guess it would depend for me.

  some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.

  many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.

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  Absolutely not. That's an appalling suggestion.

  My gripe is with the religion, not the brain-dead, indoctrinated cult followers.

  Why be like them?
  
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  Since You Left The Organization Do You Celebrate National and Religious Holidays?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know of people who were disciplined because they observed the fourth of july fireworks celebration.

  and i know many people who celebrated thanksgiving but just didn’t call it that because they could get into trouble with the elders.. do you now celebrate birthdays and other holidays or is that something you really don’t care about?

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  Yes to both, but only in secular style. What I mean is: I don’t go to church on Easter, but we do cook a big family meal and hide Easter eggs for my five year old grandchild.
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  Watchtower Spies and Secret Agents

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. scandals

  i'm posting this link:http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/spies.htmlonce you start reading it you won't be able to stop.fascinating and well-documented citations which give credibility to the belief that such a sneaky, underhanded, and often illegal practice has been secretly promoted for decades by watchtower society world headquarters..

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  I think they are more tracking MS, elders and other high ups that have access to things that they don't want leaked

  NEWS FLASH: It isn’t working!
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  Independance day.

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy independence day to all the american readers.

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  cheers all!.

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  WT: Just because you decide to leave doesn't mean you know what freedom is.

  Au contraire, deciding to leave is the first step toward freedom and away from oppression—out of the cult.

  As the saying goes, “The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.”
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  Independance day.

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy independence day to all the american readers.

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  cheers all!.

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  jp1692

  What I appreciate about this day is the idea that we (Americans) are celebrating the DECLARATION of our independence from the tyranny of an oppressive dictator, not the attaining of it. That came later.

  As ex-members of a cult, we can and should celebrate the day we reclaimed our personal independence and left the cult. We can do so even if the process of leaving was long and painful leaving us with emotional scars that last perhaps even until the present.

  We may carry the scars of our wounds for the rest of our lives. May they remind us of the price we were willing to pay for our personal freedom of mind and the integrity of our conscience.

  Happy Independence Day to all ex-JWs!
  
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  The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  2. friends

  this is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.

  thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.

  we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.

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  jp1692

  f2f,

  Thanks for the brief intro. I'd suggest you take a breath, give it some thought and compose a nice introductory essay (it needn't be too long, and what you've got above is a nice start) and then post it as it's own, separate thread.

  jp