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  Jehovah`s Witnesses Do Not Have a Clergy Class.

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. beliefs

  no , they have the governing body { some would say the popes of the religion }.

  and you do not under any circumstance go against what they say./ .

  they also have branch overseers , district overseers .circuit overseers , and elders in a congregation .. they are all up and above the rank and file of the average ordinary jehovah`s witness and they are looked upon as such by the rank and file member as equivalent to a clergy class.. oh and lets not forget the legal department that has a lot to say in how the jehovah`s witness organization responds to allegations of child sexual abuse around the world.. and when an allegation arises about child sexual abuse the w.t.

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  Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents'

  by frankiespeakin in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhw9ui.

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  BBW, they’re going back down. The “Flynn Effect” is reversing, or normalizing, to the curve. Time to check your facts and update your data.
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  Liberal vs. Democrat in the U.S.A.

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  it seems that many believe that a liberal in the usa must be a democrat, pretty much following the party core teachings and some even think it means approving the party history of, during the 19th century, supporting or tolerated slavery and opposing civil rights reforms after the civil war.

  some even insist that a liberal loves anything and everything obama did..

  balderdash!!.

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  OTWO, Nice try. Too bad it’ll likely fall on mostly deaf ears.

  You are attempting to have a nuanced discussion about shades of gray with people that can only see things in black and white, or to be more politically accurate: red and blue.

  As if there are no other colors ...

  Forget reasoned debate; let’s just reduce it all down to emotionally charged-slogans and catch-phrases:

  • less-partisan
  • completely intolerant
  • oxymoron
  • racism
  • racist
  • pretend
  • poisonous past

  Loaded language is the tool of choice of propagandists and yellow journalism. They are effective because they stop us from thinking—unless we know the game. If we know the game, then we can avoid the trap.

  Clear, dispassionate thinking avoids being unduly influenced by such biased words in favor at factual, balanced discourse.

  This is of course much more difficult—which is why most people avoid it—but it is much more productive and always yields better results in the long run.

  It takes incredible courage and personal integrity to respond to these difficult issues with thoughtful and reasoned responses. It’s just so much easier to give knee-jerk responses and degenerate into juvenile name-calling. No critical-thinking involved.

  That being said, I do believe that many of us here on this forum do aspire to more thoughtful, rigorous discourse. But we must acknowledge this singularly uncomfortable fact: we were never taught how to think or how to take a breath and make a thoughtful and reasoned response.

  But that’s no excuse: It’s not too late to learn how to think!

  Now’s the time.
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  Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

  now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

  i was raised into it.

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  The idea of endless life was certainly an appeal to me. But it is a fantasy, not reality.

  On the other hand, the teachings, polices and practices of the JW religion prevents its members from actually living their lives now! They steal your life in exchange for a lie.
  

  Since leaving the religion I am able to actually live a real, authentic life.
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  The Latest Thing Waking People Up...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.

  also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.

  active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.

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  It’s a con game: the religion gets its members to do things NOW and give up things NOW in exchange for a FUTURE reward over which they have no control or power and which isn’t even real.

  This is one reason that so many of us who woke up go through a period of feeling foolish for being conned. Once we get over that we realize we are justifiably angry at being lied to and betrayed by the religion and its leaders.

  Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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  Why can't Scarlett Johansson play a transgender character?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  scarlett johansson was cast to play a transgender role in rub & tug.. recently she pulled out.

  i don't know whether she jumped or was pushed but trans activists, despite claiming to represent only 0.3% of the population, have quite a powerful voice.. do they want a trans actor to play the trans role, is that it?.

  if scarlett johansson shouldn't play a trans role, does that mean a trans actor shouldn't play a cis role?.

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  So what’s next?

  Actors will no longer be allowed to portray doctors, lawyers, criminals or any other roles unless the have actually been fully trained, licensed and certified as experienced professionals in that field.

  Casting: “Wanna play a killer? You’re gonna have to show me the bodies!”
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  "We're involved in a life saving work"?

  by eyeuse2badub in

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  2. beliefs

  as my wife left for fs this morning (aka gossip and coffee time with her friends) she mentioned to me that one of the parts in the clam meeting this week was:.

  to remind the 'faithful' that, "we are involved in a life saving work!".

  so i just calmly mentioned to her that if he really wanted to, jehoober could save thousands of lives every day just by controlling the weather or providing just clean water or just a just a few loaves and fishes!.

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  Total number of lives “saved” by Jehovah’s Witnesses preaching since 1881: Zero

  (The organization was formed in 1881 as Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society.)
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  The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses wear Coloured Spectacles.

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

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  i have been reading a text called: “determined to believe” – by prof john c. lennox.

  he discusses theological determinism.

  it is a rather interesting text.

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  Yes, and they’re not “rose-colored glasses”; they are shit colored glasses!
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  MUST WATCH! Watchtower's Shocking Admissions

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  watchtower's shocking admissions.

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  People shouldn’t make videos when they’ve been drinking.

  Those two have lost it. Not sure they ever had it, actually.

  If they had a point worth hearing I wouldn’t know because they take waaaaaaaaaay to long to get to the it … if there was one.

  "When I said 'MUST WATCH' I actually meant 'MUST NOT WATCH!'"
  
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  Youth and Spiritual Goals in this week's WT study (Are you F-ing kidding me?)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. beliefs

  i regret following the wrong goals when i was a young person.

  such as?such as spending a hundred hours a month of my precious youth rapping my unwrinkled knuckles on doors and waving soon-to-be-obsolete religious messages in front of aghast householders.such as spending my 20th, 21st, and part of my 22nd years in prison imagining anything useful was happening or that i was pleasing the big guy in the sky.such as taking a crappy job as a janitor and trying to support my family on beans and rice while i peddled cult materials, arguing with people who were better educated about fantasy scenarios i was brainwashed into parroting.such as making excuses for my depressing existence for my empty feeling of constant depression by consoling myself that soon billions of people would be annihilated--except for me and those i was able to convince to waste their time too.thanks, watchtower for twenty years of dry rot for my brain, a jehovah sized hole in my heart, and a great big "thank you" in the form of shunning from all my wonderful spiritual brothers and sisters for all my efforts.sure am i glad i didn't "waste" my youth on education, career, lifelong friends, and (gasp) fun!i was 12 years old when i was introduced to the watchtower and the kingdom hall.23 years later, i walked out a free man.the emotional damage took decades to reconcile.i'm 71 and i'd be thrilled to have those 23 years back!the watchtower is one of the most insidious time-devouring organizations on our planet.thanks for nothing!____________________the above is in answer to:.

  this week's wt-study:.

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  The Watchtower - April 2018 - "Young People, Are You Focused on Spiritual Goals?"

  18 No one remains young for long. Young people quickly progress to adulthood. Sad to say, as adults, many then regret having followed the wrong goals when they were young or, just as frustrating, having had no goals at all. But youths who today keep focused on theocratic goals will well into adulthood be deeply satisfied with the choices they made.

  Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

  "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!" - Click here for scan

  • Forty-nine years ago it was "you will never grow old," now it's "no one remains young for long."

  Hmmm ....

  Let's review: It's a cult!