Why don't you say, "Sure mom, I'll do that ... but only if for the same month you don't go to any meetings at the KH and don't read any WT literature at all. None. Just pray to God and keep an open mind."
Posts by jp1692
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25My Mom's Challenge to Me
by lriddle80 inso my jw mom messages me on facebook last night and says she wants me, for a month, to read the bible, but first pray using the name jehovah and in jesus name and then read it with an open mind.
she is so ridiculous!
first of all, i do pray but i usually just say father and i always pray in jesus name and i find it ironic that she is saying i should have an open mind when hers is closed.
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You Bet Your Life
by DNCall init is said that life is a gamble.
when you join a religion, you are wagering some portion of your life.
you may choose not to risk too much.
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jp1692
This sounds like a refutation of Pascal's wager -- or some version of it. However he pondered the pros and cons of mere belief in God, which is clearly NOT the same as membership in and obedience to some man-made religion with the corresponding obligation to observe all of it's rules and rituals.
And I doubt he would have ever endorsed membership in a high-control, authoritarian cult as ante worth placing on the gaming table of life. That would definitely be a huge mis-stake (pun intended).
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What are they trying to hide
by UnshackleTheChains inok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
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jp1692
Don’t overthink it.
It’s the same reason for every organization that covers up corruption and illegal activity: they want to avoid accountability and taking responsibility.
So they lie to avoid the consequences
It’s. Just. That. Simple.
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Critical thinking
by Freedom rocks inwhat kind of questions would you use to get a child'scritical thinking skills going from a young age with regards to the bible/god/jesus/anything to do with the religion??.
my most hated answer jws gave to people when they said you can't see god so how do you know he exists was "well you can't see electricity or gravity but you know they exist".
sorry but that doesn't prove god exists.
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jp1692
It's true we can't see gravity but we most certainly can see evidence of it.
Thinking scientifically is a great way to encourage critical thinking. But it's even easier and more simple than that: encourage questions. Patiently explore them. Encourage your child's natural curiosity about things.
Share your own thought processes as well.
Here are a couple of recent threads on the topic you might appreciate as well:
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What immodest clothing have you got in trouble for wearing?
by Addison0998 ini personally have a very distinct sense of style and fashion which many of the fellow jdubs frown upon.
recently, i was told by a few specially self righteous ones that i looked like a prostitute in a pair of white boots!
a pair of 3 inch heeled, just a little taller than the ankle boots, with skirt that came down to my knees and a black long sleeve shirt that came up to my collarbone.
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jp1692
Nothing!
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JWs and 9-11. What was your reaction when it happened?
by kairos init was shocking.. all these years later, i found myself crying for the dead for the first time..
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jp1692
I remember that morning quite clearly.
A fellow JW and one of my best friends at the time called me and told me to turn on the television. I was -- as were many -- shocked by what I saw. It was beyond belief.
My wife (also a JW) as did virtually every JW I knew immediately said, "This could be the beginning of Armageddon!"
She was clearly more frightened than excited about that idea -- an idea which turned out to be very wrong, as has been every proclamation that "the end is nigh" both before and ever since.
In the 17 years that have passed since the tragedy of the Twin Towers I've seen many JWs die still clinging to the false beliefs of the WTBTS. I've also seen many stay in the religion desperately hoping that it is all somehow still true in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.
But I've also seen many former believers wake-up to the reality that the "theology" and beliefs of the JW religion and the WTBTS are false and unworthy of belief. These people have left the religion and begun living their lives, reclaiming whatever time remains to live a true, authentic life of meaning.
In retrospect, September 11th, 2001 was a tragic event on many levels. And yet for many of us it was a wake-up call to quit putting our faith in myths, lies and wishful thinking and put or faith in that what is real.
This is what I choose to commemorate on this day.
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Do you like to experiment when cooking?
by Xanthippe injust lately i've become weary of following recipes in books or online.
recently when on holiday in the lake district i wanted to make pasta with a tomato and cheese sauce but the only interesting cheese they had at the local store was a somerset brie.
i discovered when peeled of its skin and tossed in with tomatoes and pasta it melts beautifully and tasted amazing.
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Scruffmcbuff: to sear first or not... any opinions?
Browning is better. The Maillard reaction adds lots of flavor to the food.
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wt on education..
by zeb ini have just watched the glass smashing on the wt video on education.. please consider these experiences from the opposite side of that "coin".. i have heard young ones say out-loud on the mike in the kh that "jehovah is my special friend.."these ones who were at the top of the wt 'tree' pioneering, putting in the hours etc but, it followed that soon saying that pivotal statement they dropped their pioneering, faded, picked up the girl/boyfriend and suffered being dfd.. so where did their wt "education" leave them?
it left them as young adults naive to the world, unskilled, with no qualification to offer any employer and having to replace their former family/associates/friends with new ones.. ( dont get me going on shunning) in some cases with little success as we have read here where they moon about for months or longer unable to emotionally heal after the leaving or df'ing and also others with such a turn around they would never have believed it possible... there was a wt that related how a brother (!
) followed an interest in history and left the truth.
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jp1692
Jw leadership are from the stone age.
To be fair, they are actually worshipping a Bronze Age deity with a belief system that transitioned into the early Iron Age.
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Do you like to experiment when cooking?
by Xanthippe injust lately i've become weary of following recipes in books or online.
recently when on holiday in the lake district i wanted to make pasta with a tomato and cheese sauce but the only interesting cheese they had at the local store was a somerset brie.
i discovered when peeled of its skin and tossed in with tomatoes and pasta it melts beautifully and tasted amazing.
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jp1692
I call it jazz cooking. You start with a standard recipe and then improvise on the changes!
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2018 JWBroadcasting "Higher education is useless" video CLIP
by Not_Culty insept 2018. https://vimeo.com/288327363.
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jp1692
The Value of Higher Education
Why you should seriously consider the merits of a college education:
A 2013 study based on Labor Department statistics showed that Americans holding a four-year college degree made 98% more per hour on average than those without a degree. - (CNN Money)
More recently, according to 2015 data compiled by the Economic Policy Institute, "college graduates, on average, earned 56% more" than those who only have a high-school diploma (USA Today).While we are at it, let's take some time to think about finding a career or vocation that is more than just work, but is actually meaningful and rewarding in more ways than just monetary:- 7 lessons about finding the work you were meant to do - Kate Torgovnick May discusses Dave Isay’s new book, Callings: The Purpose and Passion of Work
See also:
- College Graduation: Weighing the Cost … and the Payoff - The issue of costs and rising student debt have have touched off a national debate about the cost and value of a college education. Surveys by the Pew Research Center present a portrait of the views of the general public and college graduates.
- Can We Learn from How Other Countries Empower Their Educators? - Education Next: Chester E. Finn, Jr., President Emeritus at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, discusses five key lessons that US educators should learn from high-performing educational systems shape teaching quality around the world.
- 7 lessons about finding the work you were meant to do - Kate Torgovnick May discusses Dave Isay’s new book, Callings: The Purpose and Passion of Work
