Posts by jp1692

They're only "Minimus-type questions" if you ask them, and then immediately lead with your own opinion and do so in such a way that implies you are inherently correct and any other opinion is wrong.

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Elders told: Watch for the signs!

by ozziepost in

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from the audio of the kms posted by kent the other day, it's enlightening to listen to the talk on the inactive.

watch for the tell-tale signs the elders are to look for in the notes that follow:.

congregation book study overseers assisting the inactive.

jp1692

Elders should . . . endeavour to use discernment as to what has caused this.
4. someone in the congregation has stumbled them

Yep, that's it. It was the elders, particularly the GB members, that "stumbled me."

Jesus said to his disciples: “It is unavoidable that causes for stumbling should come. Nevertheless, woe to the one through whom they come. It would be more advantageous for him if a millstone were hung from his neck and he were thrown into the sea than for him to stumble one of these little ones.” - Luke 17:1–2

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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural

by AlainAlam in

background info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.

actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.

i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.

jp1692

Hi Alain,

Welcome to this forum.

As far as religious doctrines go, JW or otherwise, they’re all bullshit. All of them.

Abandon belief in myths and superstition and learn to think rationally. You’ll be much happier once you work through the pain of realizing how wrong you’ve been for so very, very long. Learn to embrace reality. It’s liberating.

jp1692

FULL DISCLOSURE: I was a JW for 25 years, 20 of which I was an elder. I left this religion because it became increasingly obvious it was just as false as all the other religions it hypocritically condemns—in many ways it is worse.

Leaving it came at great personal cost. For the last decade I have been shunned by two of my adult children who remain members of the cult.

Since leaving, I have earned a teaching credential and a Master’s Degree in Education. My expertise is in the sciences where I teach: Biology, Earth Sciences, Physics, and Psychology at the secondary levels with a specialization in Chemistry.

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2020-April-01-Announcements And Reminders!

by Atlantis in

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2020-04-01--announcements and reminders.

https://docdro.id/tf7y1ic.

petra!.

jp1692

Thanks Petra!

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What Covid-19 Has Taught Us About Models

by Simon in

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let's talk about predictions.

"woooh, gaze into my crystal ball ...

woooo!!!".

jp1692

Simon: We should stop letting people frighten us and start asking hard questions instead.

Excellent advice. That's just what I'm going to do.

George E. P. Box; a British statistician who worked in the areas of quality control, time-series analysis, design of experiments, and Bayesian inference; famously wrote in various books and papers that: "All models are wrong, but some are useful."

Simon, with all due respect, you might want to take a step back and learn what science is all about—what it can do well and what it's limitations are.

Confusing and conflating pandemic models with climate change and political/economic struggles between competing belief systems is neither logical, accurate nor helpful.

Your OP is so full of factual inaccuracies that I really have no idea where to begin, but you might want to take a minute, take a breath and check your facts. If you think you're right with statements like "the ones that couldn't foresee a need for extra medical equipment while a pandemic was making its way across the planet," then you should cite your sources.

Just know it's painfully easy to show how wrong that is. There were plenty of experts that foresaw the need for "extra medical equipment" decades before this current crisis came upon on us. Plenty.

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If You're Just Here to spread Your TDS, It's Time to Say Goodbye

by Simon in

if all you want to do it deliver a constant whine of "orange man bad" then find someplace else to do.

it.

frankly, i can't be bothered with the bullshit anymore.. honestly, your politics and the whole virtue signalling woke brigade has actually started causing real deaths and was ruining life for many before that.. if you can't control your disease, then i'll do it for you.. it's not open for debate..

jp1692

Thanks for clarification, Simon! 👍

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If You're Just Here to spread Your TDS, It's Time to Say Goodbye

by Simon in

if all you want to do it deliver a constant whine of "orange man bad" then find someplace else to do.

it.

frankly, i can't be bothered with the bullshit anymore.. honestly, your politics and the whole virtue signalling woke brigade has actually started causing real deaths and was ruining life for many before that.. if you can't control your disease, then i'll do it for you.. it's not open for debate..

jp1692

LHG: The mountain of nasty remarks about Trump far surpass the remarks about democrats/leftists.

Perhaps. I haven't even attempted to keep track.

I was making the point—which you obviously got—that name calling from either side is divisive and counterproductive to any attempts at civil dialogue and persuasive argumentation.

Thanks!

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If You're Just Here to spread Your TDS, It's Time to Say Goodbye

by Simon in

if all you want to do it deliver a constant whine of "orange man bad" then find someplace else to do.

it.

frankly, i can't be bothered with the bullshit anymore.. honestly, your politics and the whole virtue signalling woke brigade has actually started causing real deaths and was ruining life for many before that.. if you can't control your disease, then i'll do it for you.. it's not open for debate..

jp1692

LGB: But blind hatred, a refusal to respectfully debate/reason, and angry name calling of those who disagree with us politically is the same exact cultish mentality we left behind in jw . org.

You make some really good points. I appreciate your reasoning and the examples you used to make them. Thank you.

I'm curious, what then do you think about comments such as: "Obozo, KILLary, or Libtard"?