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  Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

  by Crazyguy in

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  in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

  in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

  this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

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  jp1692

  FYI: Here's a link to a REAL letter from the US Branch (Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses) to all bodies of elders under the direction/control of the US Branch:

  • October 1, 2012, TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS, Re: Child abuse

  This six page letter has 26 bullet points for elders concerning what the branch wants them to do whenever an question comes up that might involve child abuse.

  Notice the first one:
  

  This letter updates the letters to all bodies of elders regarding child abuse dated March 23, 1992; February 3, 1993; August 1, 1995; March 14, 1997; July 20, 1998; May 24, 2002; April 1, 2004; June 5, 2006; and May 24, 2010. Those letters should be removed from the congregation permanent file of policy letters and be destroyed. No one should keep originals or copies of any of those letters.- [Italics in the original; bold emphasis added.]

  Note the elders were instructed to destroy nine previous policy letters concerning child abuse. Nine letters covering more than eight years!

  Careful readers of the entire letter will note that the elders are not instructed to call the authorities, but to "immediately call the [WTBTS's] Legal Department for legal advice" and let the anonymous person on the other end tell them what to do.

  Please leave your conscience and personal integrity at the door, Brother Elder. You won't be needing either of those here.
  
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  Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

  in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

  this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

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  jp1692

  Sorry John Davis, but your letter is a fake!

  You almost had me, yes you did. I was on my knees praying in the general direction of the Pacific Ocean to you my new King, but then it hit me: It's a fake! Fake news. Fake, fake, fake!

  Oh, you're a clever one. But you couldn't fool me.
  

  You wanna know how I know your letter is fake? Because the real ones from the CCoJW's always say "warm Christian love" in the closing, even after talking about child sexual abuse.

  You left out the "warm" part and it gave you away as an imposter.
  

  Seriously, every time I read one of those letters when I was an elder, it always made me want to throw up a little in my mouth. It's kind of creepy the way they say that: "With this letter we send our warm Christian love and best wishes."

  
  
  
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  Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

  in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

  this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

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  jp1692

  Darkspilver, thanks for posting those links from The Girl Next Door.
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  Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

  in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

  this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

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  jp1692

  CG: if you look at my first post it was asking questions concerning this letter talked about on a YouTube channel

  Which letter?

  Seriously. You want us to talk about an undated, vaguely referenced, ten year old letter someone (you didn't actually mention WHO authored or sent the letter, although you did refer to WT in your OP) sent to elders in Germany. And you know about this because someone identified as "son of thunder" apparently posted a video on YouTube and talked about it. But you didn't bother to provide links or details for any of this. Do you expect us to search for it?
  

  CG: it's whether this letter is credible
  

  What letter? Oh, the one you didn't post a link or any reference to other than your thread title: "Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders." And according to your own thread title, that letter is ten years old. Hardly recent.

  Also, it's not as if YouTube has any vetting process for reliability or credibility. Anyone can post pretty much anything on YouTube.
  
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  June 27, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Donations to Regional Conventions Using jw.org

  by wifibandit in

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  june 27, 2017 to all congregations in britain and northern ireland re: donations to regional conventions using jw.org.

  june 27, 2017 to all congregations in ireland re: donations to regional conventions using jw.org.

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  Maybe we should all setup accounts to automatically "donate" 1 cent per month. The banking fees for each transaction would cost the WTBTS more than they'd get resulting in a net negative effect.

  

  Imagine: if millions of us did this, for only 12 cents per person, per year, we could cause the WTBTS to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars each month. (Of course the money would end up in the coffers of the various credit card companies and banks we all use, but it might be worth it).
  
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  Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

  in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

  this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

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  Crazyguy, did you know that if you listen to Stairway to Heaven backwards, demons will make crop circles in your backyard revealing the date of Armageddon; and the next grilled cheese sandwich you make will have an image of either the Virgin Mary in it or Jane Russell, which ever fits your ideological biases and/or taste preferences.

  

  

  I know which one I'd rather eat.
  
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  Latest son of thunder video on YouTube and the 07 letter to the elders.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in his video he mentions an elders letter sent to germany in 07 , i believe.

  in this letter if i'm understanding it correctly the elders are being instructed to send most of any information on hand about child abuse in their congregation to headquarters and any thing else they have at home or in their personal possession to destroy it.

  this seams to be the most obvious case of wt telling their elders to destroy information.

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  jp1692

  Ok, you can't make this shit up. An anonymous person--using the pseudonym, Crazyguy, on an internet forum-- posts some controversial claim without out any evidence, no links, nothing; and a no-doubt-well-intentioned person asks if it's "been confirmed as authentic."

  To JD's credit, he did at least ask if it's "not just someone just making it up on their word program and putting it out there."

  C'mon! Critical thinking skills people, please!
  
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  Judicial meeting questions.

  by Fader812 in

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  why do elders ask such perverted questions during judicial meetings?

  kinda creeped me out, actually creeped me out a lot.

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  Bad shadow! Bad, bad shadow.

  You were NOT supposed to tell anyone that. No we will have to disfellowship you from the Disfellowshiped Apostates Group (DAG) and you'll have no one to play with.

  I guess that means you'll have to play with yourself.
  
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  Judicial meeting questions.

  by Fader812 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  why do elders ask such perverted questions during judicial meetings?

  kinda creeped me out, actually creeped me out a lot.

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  Because they can!

  That being said, not all elders are like that, but a disturbingly large percentage clearly are.
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  Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

  just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

  it would be good to show that this is not the case..

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  Londo: The thought that all land animals evolved in just 7000 years is just utterly ridiculous.

  Yes, with the majority of that evolution happening in the 4,000 years after the Noachian Flood.