Hypocrites are they!
Don’t tell me you’re just now noticing this for the first time!?!
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i was just thinking about the account of adam and eve, and how they both attempted to 'pass the buck', or shift the blame to someone else.
eve to the snake, and adam to eve.... does that sound familiar??.
the society has never taken ownership of its mistakes!
Hypocrites are they!
Don’t tell me you’re just now noticing this for the first time!?!
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if any member of the gb were to turn apostate---and join this site-----who would you like it to be ?
and why ?.
and--least like--and why ?.
EA: I would be happy to see any GB as an apostate and would greatly commend him for his guts and honesty.
This is why none of them will ever leave. They all lack both: guts and honesty!
if any member of the gb were to turn apostate---and join this site-----who would you like it to be ?
and why ?.
and--least like--and why ?.
I'd like to see the smart, humble one that would have no problem admitting we was wrong and that the GB's policies and practices have ruined countless millions of lives ....
Oh, I guess none of the current GB answer that description.
this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
Amicabl, you really don't understand what science is and what it can and cannot do. Here is a useful working definition that might clarify some things in your mind:
"Science is a way of learning about what is in the natural world, how the natural world works, and how the natural world got to be the way it is. It is not simply a collection of facts; rather it is a path to understanding."
I suggest you educate yourself a little bit more so you can have an informed opinion. Here is a great website that can get you started:
well went on a vacation cross country for 10 days to see relatives, and so decided to drop in on my old kingdom hall to get a look at some old friends i haven't seen in more the 27 years.. came in around 1:15 pm middle of the public talk wearing tight fitting jeans and an old sweat shirt, and sat down in front of person i served with as an elder.
the talks was so boring i can't remember a word of it, i can only recall that it was very disjointed with tremendous leaps in logic, so that my mind could not and would not follow the speaker.
watchtower study was a complete brain shrinking repeat of putting on the new personality or something, with the conductor fishing for baby food comments where none of the 3 or 4 young ones gave any comments only the hard core braindead were answering.
BBW, Very interesting experience(s) you've had.
Thanks for sharing!
jp
january 2012, at the age of 24 i “woke up” to the truth about the truth.
march 2012, i joined this esteemed message board and was welcomed.
this forum was such a help.
Captain Obvious: Yes people it is quite possible to get your wife out without burning your entire family down.
Congrats to you and your wife! Your story is indeed encouraging in regard to what is possible.
However, and this is more for others that may be reading your post, it is essential to keep in mind that what is possible is not the same as a guarantee.
I know several ex-JWs that followed almost the identical strategy as you and their spouses (mostly wives) are still die-hard JWs that have no intention of ever leaving the religion. Some have stuck with their mates, although they live together their relationships are fairly superficial because they cannot discuss so many subjects. Others have ultimately separated and/or divorced because they could no longer stand to live with someone that would not support them being themself and living an authentic life.
Captain Obvious: Be who you were meant to be. Anyone who doesn't want that for you doesn’t deserve to be in your life.
^^^ THIS ^^^
the songs in the old brown song book were way better than these new ones.
had they not changed the songs, i may never have left (halfway joking).
they gave no feeling, no soul (but of course there's no such thing as soul or whatever)!
Unmusical "music."
It's got all of the elements of music but none of the heart or soul.
yup, you read right.
despite other personal turmoil that needs to be addressed, my family has decided to go nuts over halloween decorations being "too close" to our yard.
a new family just moved in next door; their kids are super young.
I have a better idea.
Since your parents are so concerned about what others think, tell them you have the perfect solution to their problem. They just need to follow the counsel from the "Faithful Slave" as outlined in the pages of the Watchtower publications.
Tell your parents that you've done some research and found just the article to help them handle this most difficult situation involving "wicked spirit forces." (1)
Assure them that you understand that, since "we too live in a world full of demonism, earnestly praying to Jehovah for his protection is essential in resisting wicked spirits."
Be sure to remind that that, "Of
course, we need to use Jehovah’s name in our prayers." Exhort them to actually read aloud Proverbs 18:10. It would be really good if they loudly called on Jehovah's name for all of their neighbors (and the congregation members that happen to be passing by) to hear. What a bold witness for Jehovah! This should be very faith strengthening to all observers.
I would strongly encourage them to go outside where their neighbors--all of their neighbors--can hear them. Tell them they need to "keep on praying to God, loudly calling: 'Deliver us from the wicked one,' Satan the Devil" (Matthew 6:13). This will definitely get everyone's attention.
Assure your parents that, should they faithfully follow this wise direction from the "Faithful and Discreet Slave," they can rest assured that "Jehovah will answer such earnest prayers."—Psalm 145:19.
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1 - All quotes are taken directly from the publication, What Does the Bible Really Teach, chapter 10: "Spirit Creatures—How They Affect Us"
yup, you read right.
despite other personal turmoil that needs to be addressed, my family has decided to go nuts over halloween decorations being "too close" to our yard.
a new family just moved in next door; their kids are super young.
What if the witnesses drive by? What will they think?
That's it. Let's live our entire life always worried about what others would think, particularly people that have no respect for personal boundaries, are extremely judgmental, xenophobically intolerant of others and also don't have a life of their own.
So glad I'm out of all of that small-minded, petty crap.
yup, you read right.
despite other personal turmoil that needs to be addressed, my family has decided to go nuts over halloween decorations being "too close" to our yard.
a new family just moved in next door; their kids are super young.
Tell your parents to get a life. Seriously.