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  New Light

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  am i the only one who can't reconcile new light with the light gets brighter?

  if it matters at all.

  i bring a candle into my house and light it.

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  You’re not the only one.

  Why do you think we are here?
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  Is The Delusional Governing Body Geting More Delusional?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as these last days linger on and the end never comes, and more and more people leave the grips of the watchtower indoctrination machine, and it's financial situation gets worse and worse, i think we should expect the gb decision maker to become more and more delusional from the stresses of running a rapidly failing business.. https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/delusional-disorder.

  delusional disorder is a rare condition and difficult to study; as a result, it is not widely discussed in clinical research.

  while the cause is unknown, some studies suggest that people develop delusions as a way to manage extreme stress or deal with a history of trauma.

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  BBW, good exposition should be no more than 15-20% quotes. The majority should be your analysis and commentary.

  You’re getting better, but you’ve still a ways to go.

  Check out this handout from the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill:

  • Quotations

  It will make you a better writer.
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  Lead us not into temptation

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'lead us not into temptation': why pope francis is wrong about the lord's prayer.

  m j c warren, lecturer in biblical and religious studies, university of .

  pope francis recently announced that he thinks the common english translation of the lord’s prayer is mistranslated.

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  jp1692

  I don’t need God or Satan to lead me into temptation. I can find it all by myself!

  🤪
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  "Are you humble enough to admit you were wrong?"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that is a question i want to calmly and politely ask a witness next time i interact with them.

  perhaps at a cart.. "the bible says we should be humble.

  may i ask, are you humble enough to admit you were wrong on things you believe?

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  They will SAY they are, but they aren’t, not in any of the important ways that really matter.
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  Will The Watchtower Ever Give Up Mandatory Shunning Of DF'd Members?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think the wt will never give up this practice unless forced to by the courts, even if they are financially failing terribly they will keep it because the moment they do get rid of it the whole thing will collapse even faster and they know it(or afraid of it happening).

  they have painted themselves into a corner of financial ruin.

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  JL: Eventually you'll have a generation of born-ins who don't even remember it as a thing.

  So what are you saying? Will there be overlapping overlappers that overlapped the overlapping generation?

  Is the JW.ORG 5.2 beta version circa 2067 that you’re predicting?
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  Will The Watchtower Ever Give Up Mandatory Shunning Of DF'd Members?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think the wt will never give up this practice unless forced to by the courts, even if they are financially failing terribly they will keep it because the moment they do get rid of it the whole thing will collapse even faster and they know it(or afraid of it happening).

  they have painted themselves into a corner of financial ruin.

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  BBW, if the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society ever get rid of shunning, people would leave in droves. I’m sure the only reason a lot of people stay in the cult is because they’re afraid of getting shunned by their family and friends.
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  Will The Watchtower Ever Give Up Mandatory Shunning Of DF'd Members?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think the wt will never give up this practice unless forced to by the courts, even if they are financially failing terribly they will keep it because the moment they do get rid of it the whole thing will collapse even faster and they know it(or afraid of it happening).

  they have painted themselves into a corner of financial ruin.

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  No. This is Social Control 101. It’s an essential tactic of all high-control, authoritarian groups.

  Ostracism and exclusion is and always has been the number one way people in power try to keep everyone else in line—that and public executions, which (if you think about it) is essentially what disfellowshipping accomplishes, but without the legal problems associated with private groups actually murdering someone without the consent of the State.
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  And finally I'm out

  by Skepsis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all.. it's being a while that i don't share in the forum.

  after moving to another country and finding a job, i asked my congregation in my country to send my publishing card here.

  once i did it, i stopped attending meetings.

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  Skepsis, congratulations and welcome to the rest of—and the best of—your life!

  PS: It’s crazy that a person has to move to another country to get free from a cult, but that’s what sometimes needs to be done.
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  Lead us not into temptation

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'lead us not into temptation': why pope francis is wrong about the lord's prayer.

  m j c warren, lecturer in biblical and religious studies, university of .

  pope francis recently announced that he thinks the common english translation of the lord’s prayer is mistranslated.

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  jp1692

  Jesus spoke Aramaic and Hebrew. The gospels were written in Greek.

  So the Pope is taking issue with a translation of a translation of what Jesus allegedly said. That’s problematic in and of itself. But what should be of greater concern is that the padre’s reason for wanting it changed is theologically motivated, not linguistically.

  The verses say what they say, not perhaps what we want them to say. If Holy Spirit inspired the recording of these words, then it was there for the translation as well. If it wasn’t, well then, it wasn’t.

  You can’t have it both ways.

  You say eisegesis, I say exegesis; let’s call the whole thing off!
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  What's destroying Watchtower!

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me, beyond any shadow of a doubt, it's the extreme shunning policy.. at a recent sunday meeting, i listened to a complete brainwashed sister saying how important it was that we stick to the shunning policy even if it is a close relative.. i just thought.

  wtf.

  there is a big difference between the brainwashed and the awoken class!.

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  Q: What's destroying Watchtower!

  A: Self inflicted wounds.