Sounds to me like they are running scared of the big bad apostates...
I wonder what they are afraid of?...
Reverse indoctrination and loosening their followers chains is what we do
Snoozy..
reading the posts about the 2011-7-15 watchtower about mentally retarded apostates i foresee the following scenario:.
1. congregational elders trying to get grip on non regular publishers and inactive witnesses.. 2. the good ones read in the watchtower that apostates are to find in the local congregation.
3. inactives like me (i hate this name, but i use their language), and liberal witness like me, will be hunted, .
Sounds to me like they are running scared of the big bad apostates...
I wonder what they are afraid of?...
Reverse indoctrination and loosening their followers chains is what we do
Snoozy..
Luo Buo to, are you from that area or just quoting the article from there? I have a witness family there that I know very well in Toowoomba..just asking..
And I knew at least two brothers that went to prison for their military stand but they ended up doing office work..they got off easy apparently. They only went for about 2 years think and that was in the early 60's. When I had a son in 1963 I was so worried I would lose him in the army or some other form of military..I had a selfish happiness when they did away with the draft.
Snoozy
the standard of what is true is what is real.. truth=reality.
at the point of contradiction.. with what?
it would be unthinkable for reality to contradict itself.. .
I know people who think the smell of liver and onions is wonderful! They are full of shit--but, at least it isn't reality:)
I love Liver and Onions and they do they smell wonderful, that's reality!..Just shows what over thinking has done to your mind, you can no longer recognize reality....
Snoozy
the following information was taken from steven unthank's facebook page:.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/jw-news/news-release-victorian-child-protection-inquiry-hears-evidence-against-watch-tow/208372889198519.
news release: victorian child protection inquiry hears evidence against watch tower society .
I think they are losing their voices and losing any respect they may have had in the past regarding the way they handle their business..
Now it just seems like they want to hide all their mistakes..I don't think they will get away with it much longer..Victoria is just the beginning..
Trouble is that unless the people do something to stop it child abuse will and is running rampant..
Is it because of such a relaxed/anything goes/do your own thing society possibly?
JMO Snoozy
i know some here seem to truly be interested in everyone's welfare.
they seem to be really troubled/happy by another poster's health, life, children, job, sex life, worries, anxieties---you name it, they're very involved in "caring" about people that they hardly know.. i have forged some friendships, i've met some great people on this site.
i've communicated with many nice people here.
I have a soft spot for several on this board..you can tell when someone is genuine and caring and not just throwing their I Love You's out willy nilly..
The ones that bother to ask you later how things are going or what has happened regarding a situation that may have happened.
I like many people but only love a select few out of all of them . I can't say I love anyone on a computer..but I do care deeply for a few of them..and some very deeply. Ion/Dansk was one of them..I think we all fought the fight with him..and were deeply angered and hurt when he lost the fight. May he RIP..
Snoozy..
i know some here seem to truly be interested in everyone's welfare.
they seem to be really troubled/happy by another poster's health, life, children, job, sex life, worries, anxieties---you name it, they're very involved in "caring" about people that they hardly know.. i have forged some friendships, i've met some great people on this site.
i've communicated with many nice people here.
Dune said:
I don't know if anyone remembers this, but there was an ex-JW site called Thom's Chat that had JWN users ( and some banned JWN users) there were a lot of cool people on that site that I really liked. Too bad it was shutdown.
I found the archives one time and read forever it seemed like..looked like an interesting place as I knew of several that posted on Mo Chat and JWO (Not the newest one) and Sparky's and a couple other boards that went there..I could see the history a lot of them had together. Many still talk about the "famous fights" there..and a few still hold grudges believe it or not.. Then I got a bad computer virus and blamed it on something in the site and never went back..
Snoozy
my friend called round before and has just left.
he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.
i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.
In all my 15 years in I really can't say that the elders helped anyone with any problem..they always tell them to pray and study more and then when you don't change to suit them they blame it on your weak spirituality not their sheparding..they have all the bases covered!
They know all the tricks, that's why they are still around.
Snoozy
the standard of what is true is what is real.. truth=reality.
at the point of contradiction.. with what?
it would be unthinkable for reality to contradict itself.. .
Some people think so much they over think themselves...Sometimes you just have to admit it isn't possible to know if the chicken came first or the egg..
Snoozy..
from 1963 to 1980, the watchtower society "forbade" their flock from having organ transplants, saying it was cannibalism.. it looks to me like the w.t.
society is "practicing medicine", giving advice about medical issues without having a medical license for this.. wouldn't and shouldn't this be called "malpractice", and put the w.t.
in a position for a malpractice lawsuit?
It still amazes me the crazy things people sue for and get away with it and the ones that should sue and do and don't get anything..
A prime example is cigarettes..they sued the makers and won all because they didn't have a warning on them..like who wouldn't know that when you first inhale something and it burns the heck out of your mouth and you get a cough that it isn't good for you? And yet they were able to sue.
Now they have huge warnings and yet some can still sue and get away with it..
Like our common sense wasn't given to us for a reason? Like we didn't have a choice? People believe what they want to believe..can we blame someone else for our own weaknesses for falling for such Bull..? People have to take responsibility for at least some of their own actions..
Snoozy..JMO
watchtower lawyer says no probing.
ive added a new article to my blog showing a statement one of watchtowers lawyers made to medical researchers about jehovahs witnesses deciding privately to accept transfusion of blood.
i think readers will find his assertion rather surprising; but maybe not.
Prior to questioning them, the brother who's experienced in these matters advised to me that there's really nothing we can do other than ascertain whether they willfully accept a transfusion, and whether there's remorse involved.
So George if they don't know for sure they can't do anything to her right?..
Can't they be told the same thing they tell others when something negative is said about the JW's..No man is perfect and God will judge them, it isn't our job?. Isn't that what they say about the child abusers in their congregations?
That's what a witness told me when I related their (JW's) current policy on child abuse and how the abusers were handled..
Snoozy