i went to the hospital today.
my wife's sister has cancer they thought she was dying.
my wife and her were very close when they were children.
Amen!...I felt the same way when my MIL (JW) had a roomful of witnesses at the restaurant..all they could talk about was how their saying a prayer before we ate may set such an impression on the other "worldly" people at the restaurant and they may come to a meeting..(they handed out a few tracts so they could count time.). I felt like throwing up!..
Same way in the hospital..they were more concerned with preaching to anyone that came in than they were the patient!
Jerks!
Snoozy..
Also Big Rig Truckdrivers that tailgate little old ladies...
Snoozy again..
A few things mentioned already and HANGERS!
I swear they have a mind of their own...You can't just pull one out ..another one or two always hook on to the one you want.. in a complicated way
Snoozy..
did anyone see the "trauma" show (about the e.r.
) on discovery health last night?
one of the stories featured was an elderly jw lady who had an accident and needed an emergency surgery.
Just thought of one more thing re: the blood issue..when my JW Father in law developed bone cancer..he took all kinds of herbs and supplements from the health store..he also had a visiting nurse. towards the middle stage they found out there was a shot he could receive to try and help his bones. I don't remember what it was called but Medicare wouldn't cover it. It was experimental...The shot cost $1,000. a shot!
He had a few of them and then they decided it wasn't doing any good. But apparently the JW's said it was OK to take...I wish I could remember what it was......any Idea's?
Snoozy
did anyone see the "trauma" show (about the e.r.
) on discovery health last night?
one of the stories featured was an elderly jw lady who had an accident and needed an emergency surgery.
When my Hubby was diagnosed with cancer..he had the paperwork to fill out about the blood issue. Neither his JW Mom or him knew what they could or couldn't take!
I had to do the research (Many thanks to this board for your help).
Then I had to explain it to them.
Just what I wanted to do. (Not)
The stupid Laison Committee couldn't do a very good job explaining it .Of course they showed up once like vultures to lay their claim..and then never to be heard from again..except to drop by after I called them and told them he had just passed away. They rushed over and I asked them to say a prayer for him (He was still in bed waiting to be picked up) and they looked like I was crazy..and they didn't even want to get near his body....Maybe they were afraid of spooks..
Really made me mad that I had to ask them to say a prayer for him..like he wasn't any use to them anymore..
Funny..before that I had no real hard feelings towards them..after that I realized most of them were just plain downright MEAN!
But I bet if you took a survey of all the witnesses..you may find a handful that can explain their feelings on the blood issues..
Blind followers...If they can't explain it..who are they really following?..
Snoozy..
ps...at that time the only thing they could do is recycle the blood through the machine ..Hemodilution..without it being stopped ..if it was stopped they couldn't use it....or /and use blood expanders..Ringers etc.
do you ever get trouble with your pets?
i have a dog and i want it to be free to roam in this quiet semi urban area with plenty of fields around but i can't because it will search around, find females and enter into private gardens and yards to have sex with them.
of course the owners may not appreciate this and create a scene or ensnare him and hand him over to animal protection as a stray or perhaps poison him.
Do they have Invisible fences where you live?
My daughter has 2 Leonburger dogs and they are huge . She also has the in the ground invisible electric fence. It keeps them in the yard!
My gripe with them is they have a bad habit of sticking their large nose in your butt!..Drives me crazy. One attacks the front while the other attacks the rear!
I'm gonna get one of those fences and wear it as a belt..shock those noses before they can stick it in my private area!
I'll show them who the boss is..
Snoozy..
we have various types of people on this board, some believers in god, others atheists, some agnostics, and others still jw's at heart.. in your opinion, what do you believe happens to a person one minute after they die?
how about if they are good or bad?.
outaservice ( inquiring minds want to know) .
Well I was with my hubby and my Mom and Dad when they died. My Mom and Dad both died at the hospital..hubby at home. My Mom reached out like she saw someone holding out a hand right before she died , but that could have been from a heart attack or something. I could still feel her presence for quite a while after that even tho they pronounced her dead.
My Dad had a moniter attached to his body when they pronounced him dead. Quite a few minutes later they came back in the room to tell me he was gone. ( I was still sitting next to him).
The reason I was still sitting next to him was I overheard someone say something about he was still registering brain waves.on the moniter...I commented on this to the Dr and he said it was a delayed brainwave. It still registers for a while after people die.Well that freaked me out..I didn't want to take a chance he may have still been alive! I wasn't going to let them do anything to him until I was sure.
Thing is they finally chased me out and tried to reassure me he Was dead!
Needless to say I always felt uneasy about that.
Hubby just died in bed while I was sleeping next to him. Funny when I looked at him I prayed he was dead. He really suffered. But I also felt like he had gone somewhere else and wasn't with me anymore..
Months later I had a dream that he was laying next to me and hugging me and said it was time for him to go..I said I know..and never had another dream about him again.
But I did want to see him just one more time.. One more hug.
I also heard they always relieve themselves when they die..That's not true. At least not in my three experiences.
So anyway after my Dad died I have always had this fear that when our bodies die our brain keeps on going..Scares the fun out of me! Wouldn't that be awful?
Like a brain inside a jar..creepy!
Snoozy..
while reading about the sad tragedy in slc, i came across a blog.
i found it pretty interesting in that it could be compared to exjw's.
i didn't realize there was a secret mormon handshake!
They had a program on Mormans tonight on TV..It convinced me also that they are Wacko!...
Those men really know how to buffalo the women. Sad..they don't even have a mind of their own.What really got me was one gal in her twenties had to watch a lot of kids by herself..She was hoping her "hubby" would find another wife real soon.
And they REALLY overemphasized that they (the gals) were free to do what they wanted and weren't being forced to stay there....A little to much for my comfort.
I am of the opinion that ALL religions have their quirks...Too bad.
Snoozy...
i was just going through my cds and unapcking them and noticed that i have way more film scores than anything else.. particular favourites have to be:.
1) the mission - ennio morricone - beautiful and moving.
2) hannibal - hans zimmer - haunting and with a stunning opera piece which i love.
I have to agree with Leslie.The Phantom of the Opera is awesome..gives me chills everytime I hear one of the songs from it.
Come to me Angel of Music......
Snoozy
take a look at the forum of noblood.org, a website maintaining by some jw like larry eitel and jan b. wade (this last is a founder of sabm too).
jan b. wade made here a curious remark concerning hemodilution:.
"there has been some refinement in what a jehovah's witness patient may or may not accept.
When Hubby was in the hospital getting chemo..the laison" troop" told me that if the tube comes off the machine or slips out of his body..they couldn't put it back in.He would lose that blood... It was separated from the body.That was in 2002..It had to be like an extension of his vessels...continous..without a break..
Thankfully he never went any further in his treatment so wasn't subjected to all that .
He was scheduled to go to a Witness hospital we have here in St Louis Mo but he never made it that far.
The hospital was the only place that would have put a Portal ? in his chest (for the chemo) without using Blood.They have to put the tube directly into a major artery and many Drs.here won't accept the No Blood policy when doing that.
Snoozy..
