elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long.
i want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that i can keep my strength against them!
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Just to add something to what willy_think said, you can go to any Mormon site and Ex-Mormon support site and read how many people have been excommunicated/disfellwshipped for apostasy. You and your husband might be COMPLETELY amazed by the similarities of the JW congregations rules and behavior and the congreagtions of Mormons rules and behavior. Even their a lot of their teachings are the same as JWs. They even use the teerm "worldly" in the same way as the JW sect does!
peace,
gwen
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we are all liars everylast one of us are liars.. we have deliverd bible studys directly into the jaws of death ,do you feel any responsibility to the crimes inflicted upon others,if so who was it and what are you doing about it now??????????????
how many lives did you effect, have you tried speaking to them say by letters or emails.
((((((((((( mouthy, Ken P, and others who have brought others and family into JWism,)))))))))))
I know it is as you said, mouthy. That the hardest to forgive is yourselves. I also believe what else you said that God forgives you all. You all have my deepest heartfelt sympathy and I can empathize with you. I only pray that you can somehow find it in your hearts to forgive yourselves and truly accept that you were not responsible simply because you DID NOT KNOW that it is a cult at the time you directed people into it. I pray that you don't suffer anymore mouthy. And just think of the WONDERFUL messages you've given to people since you've left! I heard you address a crowd somewhere on the net ( I don't rmember what site it was downloadable from ) and your honest and true thougths were TRULY heartwarming to others. That includes myself very much.
I love all of you,
gwen
HI, (((((((((outnfree)))))))))). I didn't leave you out on purpose! You were posting at the same time I was.
Edited by - somebody on 27 January 2003 10:19:47
dear xxxx , .
i am pleased to respond to your letter recieved april of 2012, wherein you inquire about my being a member the jehovah's witness organization.
my purpose in becoming a member of the jehovah's witness organization in 2002 was to have access to "informative, educational, and factual information with inspiring and awakening topics".
Dear XXXX ,
I am pleased to respond to your letter recieved April of 2012, wherein you inquire about my being a member the Jehovah's Witness Organization.
My purpose in becoming a member of the Jehovah's Witness organization in 2002 was to have access to "informative, educational, and factual information with inspiring and awakening topics".* I had been using the Wathtower and AWAKE! magazines for many years prior to 2002, but in that year it became neccessary to become a member to have continued access to their libraries.( no more mail-in subscriptions and have to be a member to gain access to the extensive library Wathtower CD- Roms).
I am glad to provide the above comments in answer to your inquiry.
Missionerely yours,
Sister B.S.
*AWAKE! 3/22/1998
" You must forgive me for forgetting to renew the subscription for the good magazine Awake! It is an informative, educational, and factual magazine with inspiring and awakening topics. I want all the back issues I've missed. I cannot miss even one. Thank you for patiently helping to fight ignorance.
N. S., Sri Lanka"
Edited by - somebody on 27 January 2003 10:0:56
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we are all liars everylast one of us are liars.. we have deliverd bible studys directly into the jaws of death ,do you feel any responsibility to the crimes inflicted upon others,if so who was it and what are you doing about it now??????????????
how many lives did you effect, have you tried speaking to them say by letters or emails.
I never started a bible studies either. I did place magazines too. But most of them I was placing it the trash can in the ladies rooms at the coffee shops we stopped at for coffee breaks. this way, I wasn't lying when I reported how many magazines I had "placed". I would simply wrinkle up paper towels to through on top of them in the trash can in order to hide them in case anyone in my "group" went to the ladies room after I did. I guess it was my own theocractic warfare. Only I didn't know it at the time. Could it have been Jehovah's spirit upon me? back then I was throwing them away only because I was forced to "report" how many magazines I placed. I was extememly shy at the time and absoletely hated going out in service. I did not look at it as a "privilege". I looked at it as it really was. I was forced agaist my will to do it, by my parents. Until I was legally free to make my own decisions, I had to follow my parent's rules.
I understand what you are saying to a certain degree, nightworrior. And I am thankful that I never raked anyone into the sect. I feel bad for those who have who now see that it is a cult. But I certainly think only God knows what was in their hearts at the time and they obviously weren't aware of what they were directing people into. they are not to blame as far as I'm concered. Their leaders/teachers are responsible. That being the WBTS.
peace,
gwen
good day all my fellow jw.comers .
i found this interesting to read.. .
yearbook 1987 page 177. surprised, too, were the clergy, who did not expect this invasion of what they viewed as their pastures!
Good day all my fellow JW.comers
I found this interesting to read.
Yearbook 1987 page 177
Surprised, too, were the clergy, who did not expect this invasion of what they viewed as their pastures! They warned their flocks, as best they could, not to accept any publications or else to burn these and call the police....
"CHURCH MESSENGERS" HELP AROUSE INTEREST
...After the third visit, the husband disclosed the reason for his initial interest: "You know, I read a short article on Jehovah's Witnesses in the Church Messenger. It said that if two young people come to your door, well dressed, tactful, and with the Bible interpretation of their religion, you should not listen to them; just tell them you have your own church, and your minister teaches you all these things, and then close the door. But you see, I am a free man and want to examine things myself. That's why I listened to you."....
This young couple progressed well, began attending meetings, and soon were sharing in the field service. They also symbolized their dedication to Jehovah. It was the Church Messenger that had directed their attention toward the truth!
peace,
somebody
today, my daughter turns 35. i've been thinking about her a lot the last couple of days, thinking about the blizzard my biker friend drove me through (in his car) to get me to the hospital so i could deliver her there.
i'm thinking about how little she was and seemed so angry to be coming into this world.
i'm thinking how i would give anything to hold her in my arms and tell her i love her.. deanna, i think that it's unlikely that you would even come to a board like this.
(((((((((((Windchaser)))))))))))))
I'm so sorry for your pain. My thoughts and prayers will be for you and your daughter. And that you'll reunite someday.
I was just thinking that if your daughter graduated from high school, you can go here
www.classmates.com and see if she's registered under the school and year she graduated. It's worth a try!
peace to you,
somebody/gwen
i tried to figure out a way to do this anonymously, because i really hate looking stupid.
well, this stupid anyway!
but you see, i'm not really much of an internet person.
Now somebody, quick, how do I delete this thread??!!
I don't know how to delete threads.
I would leave it anyway. It's pretty informative.3
Thanks for the info, Tatiana!
peace,
somebody
just wondering!.
i remember when i was about 16 having a snog with a girl who smoked.
it really was like sticking your tongue into an old ash tray.
Englishman,
Good question.
I kiss a smoker all the time. As a smoker myself, I can't smell it or taste it. If I quit smoking would I still kiss a smoker? Depends if I love the smoker or not. If I love the smoker, I think I'd still kiss him no matter what. I might suggest that the smoker I love take a mint or brush his teeth first if the scent of cigarettes turned me off or bothered me..
Drinkers have a strong scent to non-drinkers just as smokers do to non smokers. Sometimes the scent is a turnoff.....sometimes the scent is a turn on.
The scent of alcohol.
Would you kiss a drinker?
peace,
gwen
as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
MAN,did somebody go dig Korah up and clone him or something? I understand what Moses went through now.
Who made you judge and jury? Jealousy ( the feeling of envy), pride, ARROGANCE. (haughty)
Sounds like the Pay attention To The Flock Book published for elders to follow from the WBTS!!!
ELDERS,Follow the MOSIAC LAW and We, the Society, appoint you judges, jury, full of pride in arrogance. We have the right to be judges an jury of peoples hearts!
We, the WBTS, appoint you, elders , THE PRIVILEGE OF FOLLOWING THE MOSIAC LAW TO BE JUDGES OF PEOPLE (Gen. 18:25). We the society have ingnored the role of Christ and the role that the Father has given to Him alone. We, the Society ,have taken that role off of Jesus Christ and given the job of judging others by setting up judicail commitees to do the job that Jesus said not even the Father does. What a privilege given by the Society that is!!!!! You elders have our permission to be a CLONE OF MY SON, JESUS CHRIST!
We, the Watchtower Bible & Tract Socity Incorporated hereby give you elders the privilege to act as judge and jury to your fellow sinners who are members of our organization. If you don't view this as a privilege from Jehovah, then shame on you for not binding others to the Mosaic law! YOU ARE APOSTATES of the WBTS!
Nothing like changing the subject to avoid the facts about the WBTS REGISTERING AS NGO MEMBERS UNDER THE UNITED NATIONS BY AGREEING TO SUPPORT THE GOALS OF THE UNITED NATIONS AND PUBLISHING ARTICLES SO THAT THEY APPEAR TO AGREE WITH THE UN'S GOALS WHEN THE NGO ASKS FOR PROOF THAT THE WATCHTOWER BIBLE & TRACT SOCIETY AGREE WITH THE WILD BEAST WHO RIDES THE WHORE OF BABYLON THE GREAT'S GOALS, eh, mind?
Edited by - somebody on 25 January 2003 12:46:48
my oldest daughter jennifer will graduate from medical school on may 1st!
it was a long haul for her.
she spent almost nine years as a full-time student at san diego state university.
Farkel,
I didn't know you had children either! I can see why you are a proud papa!
My heart goes out to the JW children who are discouraged from being all that they can be and following their dreams in life. My son changed his major from being a History Teacher to being a Pharmacist in his junior year too. My daughter wasn't going to go on to college from High School when she graduated simply because she didn't know where she wanted to go in life or what she wanted to do in life, careerwise. I told her that is ok to not know where you are going. You can still go to college and decide along the way. Even if she changes her mind 3 times along the way!
Congratualations to you and your daughter!
peace,
gwen
edited to correct my spelling of the word pharmacist. I can never claim that my children inherited their brains from their mother! Fortunately for them.
Edited by - somebody on 25 January 2003 10:24:1
