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  Blondie is awesome!!!

  by Sheep2slaughter in

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  i'm just sayin... blondie...are you a lawyer or investigator or what!?

  her/your weekly watchtower comments we won't hear at the watchtower indoctrination are amazing.

  so much work.

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  Yes, she IS awesome! Thank you Blondie! I still read your WT Comments every week!

  peace,

  somebody/gwen
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  Emailing my sister RE: Child abuse conviction - NEED HELP!!

  by What Now? in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so the other night, my family was together and my dad brought up the recent child abuse conviction for the society.

  big surprise, my sister hadn't heard anything about it, so of course she got right on to the jw.org website and emailed me the link to the watchtowers official statement.

  this is my reply:.

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  She DOESN'T CARE if it were you or your child or younger sister but if she had a child of her own she might be more sympathetic? WOW! How sad is that? Does Jehovah allow bad things to happen IN THE ORGANIZATION because HE RULES it as the WTS has stated?

  I feel bad for you What Now? . My heart goes out to you. I'm happy that you discussed this with her though. I'm sure she is thinking about it now and may start doing some research herself.

  peace,

  somebody
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  The "Secrecy Policy”

  by Celestial in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've given this recent lawsuit quite a bit of thought and come to sound conclusions.

  after examining other organization's child-protection policies (namely churches), what i've come to realize is there's a one-size fits all solution that's socially acceptable; all information obtained through witnesses and confessions by organizational personnel is be used to aid and abet law-enforcement.

  there's no in-between or anything short of this objective that's socially acceptable.

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  No clergy- penitent privilege laws would apply to any JWs period, seeing as JWs have no clergy class, according the the Watchtower Society itself.

  *** g8/10p.9WhatDoJehovah’sWitnessesBelieve?***

  10. Theclergy-laitydistinction “All you are brothers,” said Jesus to his followers. (Matthew 23:8) The early Christians, including the Bible writers, had no clergy class. This Biblical pattern is the one that Jehovah’s Witnesses follow.
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  CO visit. New light

  by 2tone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you want to skip to the new light or understanding, its underlined for you pleasure.

  i think some will find this interesting.

  we had the co tonight.

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  My first thought was that I knew they would change what or who the F&DS is because that "slave" is already said to be non-exisitant in the court in Victoria regarding the Child protection laws there. Soon, the GB will be said to be "invisible" too. Collective asses are to be covered! :-)
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  Chemicals buried at WT Farms (WT ruining the earth)

  by doinmypart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems that the wt is guilty of illegally dumping printing chemicals (or as they like to say "ruining the earth") in upstate new york.

  read the full articles from the news sites below.. "state officials are investigating chemical pollution found buried at an upstate new york property owned by the jehovah's witnesses organization.

  " http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/8e675d204fbf4352ab2cf65086b4b411/ny--buried-chemicals/.

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  It's not the first time the Watchtower Society has polluted the earth. They've been fined years ago too.

  http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43851/13216029/

  Someone actually posted pictures here years ago of the shale mine and it was thick disgusting black sludge.
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  Bill Bowen

  by somebody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please support bill, if anyone is within driving distance.

  afterall, he has been supportive of too many people to count, when they needed someone to be there for support and understanding.

  bill bowen made a huge difference in the lifes of others.

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  I Have Bill's permission to pass this on, although he doesn't know I'm posting it here. Please hold your thoughts if you have a a problem with him. He is human, just as all of us are, and feels pain, just as all of us do.

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  Open Invitation
  
  I will be attending my father’s funeral on Saturday at 2 pm in Hot Springs Arkansas. If anyone would like to attend to support me and my son, the address is:
  
  Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses
  225 Marion Anderson Road
  Hot Springs National Park, Arkansas 71913
  
  You can also send flowers in the name of Silentlambs to the address above or make a donation to Silentlambs in the name of my father. (Billy John Bowen) Anyone that does will receive a free DVD of the Silentlambs video on DVD that shows highlights from four of the key programs on JWs and child abuse. (Dateline, CNN, BBC Panorama, Australia) This includes the BBC interview with Ted Jaracz of the Governing Body and his arrogant response denying the abuse problem. It is an excellent educational tool to help anyone understand how the corrupt policy on abuse works within Jehovah’s Witnesses. Also included is the WT PR video distributed to media to discredit Silentlambs. I will meet anyone that comes out front of the Kingdom Hall at 1:45 pm. You can email me at [email protected] and I will be glad to provide my telephone to text or call.
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  Bill Bowen

  by somebody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please support bill, if anyone is within driving distance.

  afterall, he has been supportive of too many people to count, when they needed someone to be there for support and understanding.

  bill bowen made a huge difference in the lifes of others.

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  Bill Bowen

  by somebody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please support bill, if anyone is within driving distance.

  afterall, he has been supportive of too many people to count, when they needed someone to be there for support and understanding.

  bill bowen made a huge difference in the lifes of others.

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  I don't know if he is still here. But here are one of his notes of just yesterday. He said we could share.

  Dad Died Today

  I was told an aorta broke and he had a massive heart attack after two days of feeling bad. Understand I did not hear this from my Jehovah’s Witness mother or sister, instead it was communicated to my non JW family who in turn called me to let me know what happened. It is strange perhaps for the reader to read how life is when you have Jehovah’s Witness family and you are disfellowshipped. You see Jehovah’s Witnesses practice shunning when a former member chooses to leave or is expelled from the religion for not following church rules. Members are told that those who leave are ‘mentally diseased’ and need to be avoided as you would a bad virus. Any member who flaunts this policy will find themselves thrown out as well and thus ‘diseased’ as well. It creates a type of slavery to the will of a publishing company that needs volunteer labor to distribute over one billion pieces of literature a year to generate money for one of the wealthiest religions on earth.

  My dad was one of their slaves. He came into the organization in 1957. He went to Kingdom Ministry School when it was a month long, pioneered for many years, served as an elder for over forty years, was an assembly overseer, sub co, and headed many departments at conventions and taught many schools. He was known for his talks that could move an audience to tears and laughter all in the same forty-five minutes. He could remember the name and background of a person he met twenty years ago and had a quiet disarming way of putting anyone at ease and making you feel like he was your best friend. Many times I have known that when faced with difficult people or congregational matters when the choice was offered to take the easy way out or fight for what was right…he would fight for the underdog and often at great cost politically. He had a difficult marriage that in time was resolved with just giving up and losing who he was as a person. While not always making the best decisions as a parent as time progressed he acknowledged his mistakes and tried to make things right. When I had my own family I often took him fishing. It was one of the great loves of his life even though he was not very good at it. I resolved to just drive the boat and point him to the good spots and try to avoid getting hooked or helping him keep from getting tangled in brush as he was most of the time. I was not in it for the fish it was just to spend some time with him. He told me years afterward they were some of the happiest times of his life.

  I recall in 1990 telling my father the organization were lying to us on the 1914 doctrine and they would have to change it. I distinctly recall him saying, “If they do that then I am leaving.” Yet when 1995 came and with a Watchtower article they admitted they lied. I called my dad and said, “SEE I TOLD YOU! Now what are you going to do?” He mumbled something about being loyal to Jehovah. We were both elders at the time and yet it was a fore gleam of what was to come. From that point forward I decided I would never trust any prophecy made by Watchtower officials. But I would continue to try and serve and help people. That all came to a head when I had to deal with a fellow elder that was a confessed child molester. After almost a year of trying to resolve the matter internally I was told to ‘Leave it in Jehovah’s hands” when I presented further evidence he was molesting another child. I could not do that. I called my father and told him what was going on. His advice was to “wait on Jehovah”. I said, “Dad can’t do that.” That is one of the last conversations we had. I learned two months later that Watchtower officials had sent a film crew to my parent’s home to try and find out dirt on me. In the course of that interview my father stated, “My son is just not telling the truth.” The Jehovah’s Witness officials took that clip and made a PR video to discredit me and distributed it in four states to newspaper and television media. I know because two reporters gave me copies. Their comment to me was, ‘How could any religion be so dirty as to pit a father against a son?”

  I thought when my father found out how they had used him it might help him see how wicked and corrupt these people were. I sent him a copy…There was no response, no apology, no attempt to connect with his son. The funny part was I was not even disfellowshipped at that time. It was a few months later and the charge was due to reporting child abuse in the organization. I thought if I could help him see it was a world wide problem that it might help him see the real truth about the organization. We did twenty four documentaries in thirteen countries. The Watchtower paid out millions in settlements to victims due to our work. Each time I let him know and each time I was met with silence.

  I was sent a letter asking me to come back to the organization by my parents. I carefully explained the reason I left was because I could not associate with unethical and immoral people. I did not wish to return to the ‘vomit’ I escaped from. At the same time I assured them of my love and stated if they ever wished to be family that I was there for them. I loved them both and would always be their son.

  That was two years ago. I never got a further response and the only way I could keep up with them is through a non JW aunt that communicated with them. I would call every couple of weeks and get an update as to how they were doing.

  I feel sad for my dad, his whole life was spent in a cult that used him up and discarded him when he was done. He lost out on having a relationship with his only son and not even knowing his only grandson who is a really great person, all because a cult told him not to. At this moment I think he is somewhere feeling a lot of anger at those that lied to him.

  I will miss you and miss the life and relationship we could have had if we just could have been a real family. That was taken away by a wicked evil cult that destroys families. I should know it destroyed us.

  Dad I love you and hope you find peace.
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  Bill Bowen

  by somebody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please support bill, if anyone is within driving distance.

  afterall, he has been supportive of too many people to count, when they needed someone to be there for support and understanding.

  bill bowen made a huge difference in the lifes of others.

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  Please support Bill, if anyone is within driving distance. Afterall, HE has been supportive of too many people to count, when they needed someone to be there for support and understanding. Bill Bowen made a HUGE difference in the lifes of others. He has lost his Dad to death... for a second time in his life, if you all know what I mean. Pain is REAL. No matter who suffers through it.

  www.silentlambs.org

  peace,

  somebody
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  THE REQUESTIING THREAT

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  *** w60 11/1 p. 669 what does halloween mean to you?

  "what does halloween mean to you?.

  on halloween night when confronted by a masked, costumed youth making the requesting threat, trick or treat, do you think it cute, just a harmless occasion for children to enjoy themselves?".

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  OUTLAW, your words speak VOLUMES!! And I love the humor added to the TRUTH!