i was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.
i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.
i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.
It's SO frustrating to say the least, Sour Grapes! I understand what you are going through. Nice name, as Sour Grapes in VERY understandable. Some people will never admit that their are legitimate reasons for becoming sour. Being deceived and lied to by people who taught you to trust them and be loyal to them is just two reasons!
peace,
somebody
you know how when your asked to talk about something your not interested in how annoying it is, or difficult to debate something from the opposite side of your view.
after learning ttatt i've come to regard the nonsense the org spouts as quite evil then to have to give parts about how great it is makes me hate it that much more.. story aside, what might you say to the elders to get them to dismiss it or get off your back if you told them your heart's not in it any more?.
not the obvious it's a stupid hypocritical cult that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth..
If you look back a little for SAHS post, he or she said what is below. That person said much more but I would just say, " I dedicated my life to GOD, and not to any human, any group of humans, any work, or any organization when I got baptized". And I prefer to and WILL keep it that way. And then just tell anyone questioning you that you don't wish to discuss it any further. And I would say that whether you still believe in God or not. It'll give you time to yourself to search online or /and your heart and come to a conclusion either way.
There is a fundamental lie which I couldn’t help noticing today in the Our Christian Life and Ministry—Meeting Workbook for August 1-7, 2016. It is in the little supplemental page considered this week under the title “Improving Our Skills in the Ministry—Helping Bible Students to Progress to Dedication and Baptism,” in the first paragraph (labelled “WHY IMPORTANT”), third sentence. Here is that sentence:
“A Christian’s dedication is to Jehovah—not to a human, a work, or an organization.”
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
RubaDub ( ha ha ha! That's a funny name! ), NAH. It was just me trying to figure out how to scan and then find what I scanned and then learn how to post it. It took me hours to find my KIT, and then more hours to figure out the rest! If I had won something big in Las Vegas, I probably would have posted more than 3 times in a row. :-)
peace,
somebody
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
Not sure if I know how to insert what I scanned from my, "The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures but I'm going to try."
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
Here are the scriptures from the NWT, smiddy ( the bolding is mine though )
(Mark 5:19, 20) 19 However, he did not let him but said to him: “Go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things Jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.” 20 This man went away and started to proclaim in the De·capʹo·lis all the things Jesus had done for him, and all the people were amazed.
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
Crazyguy, YES! I'ts just like that! They have it both ways because the followers of the WBTS Inc. ALLOW them to!
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
FayeDunaway, I find it interesting too. Because when looking up on any year of WT cds, USUALLY both Mark 5: 18-20 AND Luke 8: 38-39 are avoided. There is a reason for that.
And yes, I quoted from the NWT. And those scriptures have not been changed YET by the WTBT INC. Give them time! ;-)
(Luke 8:38-39) NWT published by the WBTS Inc. ...
. . .. 38 However, the man from whom the demons had gone out kept begging to continue with him, but he sent the man away, saying: 39 “Go back home, and keep on relating what God did for you.” So he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city what Jesus had done for him.
Bolding mine
peace,
somebody
· for what reasons does jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what jesus did?.
but jesus tells the man: “go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”—mark 5:19.. .
(mark 5:18-20) .
Per usual, I mix everything up. If any JWs are here, tell us all why the question was asked, " For what reasons does Jesus have the formerly demonized man tell others about what Jesus did?" after quoting Mark 5:19. When in Mark 5:19 reads:
NWT
19 However, he did not let him but said to him: “Go home to your relatives, and report to them all the things Jehovah has done for you and the mercy he has shown you.”
My question is, DID JESUS HAVE THE FORMERLY DEMONIZED MAN TELL OTHERS ABOUT WHAT JESUS DID in the said scripture?
Obviously NOT. So what did JWs do when reading that book/brochure? Was the book brochure written for NON JWs ONLY?
