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How far should we let our love go?

by bigboi in

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jesus said in john 13:35 that "by this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.

" how far should we let this mindset affect our dealings with people no mattter who they are or what they do?

you're honest opinions please.

somebody

bigboi,

I just try to "hate" anyone, period.

doh!!....I meant to say that I try NOT to hate anyone! Really, that's what I meant to say!

peace,
somebody

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How far should we let our love go?

by bigboi in

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friends

jesus said in john 13:35 that "by this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.

" how far should we let this mindset affect our dealings with people no mattter who they are or what they do?

you're honest opinions please.

somebody

Hi there,

Good question.

Jesus said in John 13:35 that "By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves."

my opinion is to follow the golden rule, to treat others as you would want to be treated. I also find it interesting that if your read that scripture ( John 13:35 ) in other Bibles, it doesn't say to have love among "yourselves". It says to love "one another". The JWs think that "yourselves" means to love other JWs only. meaning that the society teaches that people will see how much love they show among "themselves", and want to join the club. The Bible was written WAY BEFORE Russell ever came along and started his doo-doo. There are also different kinds of love, as you know. I just try to "hate" anyone, period.

peace,
somebody

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by somebody in

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i was in the live chat today and was chatting with achristian ( tell your wife i'll dye my hair blonde, if it keeps you out of the doghouse[8>] ),logical, and a few others about the subject of worshipping jesus.

my nwt is the 1961 version and still has the word "worship" in hebrews 1:6. i decided to do a search on my cd to see if i could figure out what year it was that it was revised and the word worship taken out an replaced.

i figured i'd share with you all a "sarcastic" answer the wbts gave in the question from readers section of a watchtower.

somebody

Thanks, waiting
in the publications before 1961, I didn't mention that instead of (NWT) after quoting scriptures, it says (NW). I don't know what the stands for so that's why I was asking.

peace,
somebody

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by somebody in

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i was in the live chat today and was chatting with achristian ( tell your wife i'll dye my hair blonde, if it keeps you out of the doghouse[8>] ),logical, and a few others about the subject of worshipping jesus.

my nwt is the 1961 version and still has the word "worship" in hebrews 1:6. i decided to do a search on my cd to see if i could figure out what year it was that it was revised and the word worship taken out an replaced.

i figured i'd share with you all a "sarcastic" answer the wbts gave in the question from readers section of a watchtower.

somebody

greetings,

I was in the live chat today and was chatting with aChristian ( tell your wife I'll dye my hair blonde, if it keeps you out of the doghouse[8>] ),logical, and a few others about the subject of worshipping Jesus. My NWT is the 1961 version and still has the word "worship" in Hebrews 1:6. I decided to do a search on my cd to see if I could figure out what year it was that it was revised and the word worship taken out an replaced. I figured I'd share with you all a "sarcastic" answer the WBTS gave in the Question from readers section of a watchtower. it made me laugh. I now figure the boys in writing in NY DO have a sense of humor afterall!

5/15/1954 WT
Questions from Readers

"In the January 1 issue of The Watchtower the question from Ethiopia, "Should we worship Jesus?" is answered. In paragraph five Hebrews 1:6 is quoted with regard to the angels of God worshiping Jesus, but in the final paragraph it says: "The answer to the above question must be that no distinct worship is to be rendered to Jesus Christ now glorified in heaven. Our worship is to go to Jehovah." Does this not contradict the statement of Hebrews 1:6?-T. P., United States.

In reply to the several questions on this point in a few letters received, we ask: Are you an angel of God in heaven? If you are, then Hebrews 1:6 applies to you. If you are not one of God's angels in heaven, then Hebrews 1:6 is not directed to you, ...."

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Gave me a good laugh! At the same time, I asked myself why they tampered with then too. My search then took me from 1954, to 1984, when the WBTS continues it's neverending practice of insulting the Catholic religion.

w84 9/1 29

"This being the case, Jehovah's Witnesses are not surprised to read in Hebrews 1:6 that the angels are invited to "do obeisance to him," "pay him homage [The New English Bible]" or "worship him [JB]." (Compare Revelation 5:11, 12.) This in no way contradicts Matthew 4:10, where Jesus-quoting Deuteronomy-says that only Jehovah God must be worshiped. Interestingly, the Catholic Jerusalem Bible, that says "worship him" in Hebrews 1:6, refers in its marginal references to Deuteronomy 32:43 (Greek Septuagint) and Psalm 97:7, where it renders the same words, respectively, "pay him homage" and "bow down." Why is this Catholic Bible inconsistent? Apparently for Trinitarian reasons."
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The society never mentioned that the NWT used to use the word worship too. Anyway..my question is ( actually, I have two )..

Does anyone know when the society changed Hebrews 1:6?

And also, does anyone know what Bible was used by the JWs before 1961 when the NWT was published?

Thanks in advance for any help.

peace,
somebody

Edited by - somebody on 20 March 2001 18:18:6

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"Pay Attention" book; Sharing on Judi...

by TR in

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sharing .

on a judicial committee .

"when having a hearing between your brothers, you must .

somebody

Hi Focus,

I read TR's quote from Unit 5b in the flock book. it's on page 107 of it.

peace,
somebody

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"this teaching"

by somebody in

"if anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.".

i know that the "society" uses this scripture to instruct it's members on how to view other members that have been judged and condemmed.

(i. e. disfellowshipped) i'm intersted in opinions of what "this teaching" is referring to in the verse.

somebody

Hi everybody,

2John 10

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him."

I know that the "society" uses this scripture to instruct it's members on how to view other members that have been judged and condemmed. (i. e. disfellowshipped) I'm intersted in opinions of what "this teaching" is referring to in the verse.

peace,
somebody

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Hello, and what is this place anyway?

by Seeker in

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greetings all.. i decided to follow the recommendations and check this place out.

i'm curious, who runs this joint, and what are their rules of conduct.

i see fred hall posts here, so clearly apostates are welcome.. anyway, just saying: hey, y'all.. seeker (got my old handle back here)

somebody

Hi seeker,

nice that you're here.

peace,
somebody ( Chag/chagger on H20 )

Edited by - somebody on 18 March 2001 14:39:38

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"Pay Attention" book; Sharing on Judi...

by TR in

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sharing .

on a judicial committee .

"when having a hearing between your brothers, you must .

somebody

Hi TR,

everytime I read this sentence and the scripture the WBTS uses to say that judicial hearings are what Jehovah commands.....

"When having a hearing between your brothers, you must
judge with righteousness. " ( Deut. 1:16 )

it just makes my blood boil! Because I've seen it it print in the "stuff" that the WBTS print over and over again that Christians are NOT under the mosiac law! They totalaly disregard the law of Christ, yet they claim that they follow Jesus. They ignore the fact that Jesus was given ALL AUTHORITY over the heaven and the earth after his reserrection. They also disregard that Jehovah judges no one and commited Jesus to do the judging. Jesus said to STOP JUDGING and STOP CONDEMNING. What kind of faith does the society have in Jesus anyway? what the heck does it mean to "excercise faith in Jesus' name" ? They hold their members under the mosiac law and their own members MUST be able to see that. It's CRYSTAL CLEAR by the scriptures they use. God giving his son's life means absolutely nothing to them.

I'll stop here because I'm getting riled up again.

Thanks for what you pointed out too.

peace,
somebody

Edited by - somebody on 18 March 2001 14:12:14

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