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family matters

by zev in

i've decide to share with y'all a letter i wrote to my sister.

our relationship has been strained of late, and i needed to get a start to fixing that.

we lost 2 family members to death in the last week, and it made me realize how far we have grown apart over the years.

somebody

Hi zev,

Thank you for sharing your personal matter with us. I'm sorry about the loss of your 2 family members.

I'm so glad that you're taking steps to try and mend your family ties! I realize you can't go back and make up for lost years, but to start anew is wonderful. I'm sure your sister will be happy to have her brother back in here life. Even if it's back to the bickering that usually comes with being siblings!

I hope your sister gets in touch with you soon, now that you've opened your heart to her, and gave her a hint as to what kind of emotional suffereing you've been living through lately. Please let us know how your sister responds to your mail. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed, (Oh yeah...we ain't supposed to do that!....I'll just cross my toes instead) and hoping that all goes well for you.

the reason
i sent out that email to everyone was to get a start on getting it all
together. a first step, i hope in the right direction.

What was that about? ( I'm nosy ) Are you setting up a family get-together?

peace,
somebody
PS.....my thoughts are with you, especially at this time.

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I didn't survive an Apostate Convention

by expatbrit in

jw
friends

so i get this envelope in the mail.

i know it's, like, apostate stuff.

because it doesn't fall to the floor after coming through the letter box.. inside is an invitation:.

somebody

Just jumping in to say thank you for the laugh too.

peace,
somebody

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Evil: Live With It. It's a Game

by Farkel in

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friends

is good a part of god or is god a part of good?

which is the bigger thing which contains the other?

most people would say that god is the container of good and not the other way around.. if this is true, then good comes from god.

somebody

Good morning, Farkel.

Intersting concept of life in your post.

In a Chess game there are no judgements, no real punishments, just lessons, and the lessons learned are more important than the concepts and consequences of “good” and “evil.”[/QOUTE]
The way I see it, "lessons" are our OWN judements.
You just learn to get better and better at the game. You do that by losing a lot and then figuring out why you lost.
Ain't that the truth.
[QUOTE]There are many dilemmas here: do you get “better” at the game of life by being a self-serving criminal who could not care less about the rights and lives or others, or do you get “better” at the game of life by helping, loving and sharing what you have with others. When and how do you play your hand? What have you learned from the hands you have played so far? How do you improve on the game? What works? What doesn’t work?

I'll be watching for others to answer the questions. I'm still trying to learn how to play.

peace,
somebody
P.S....Chess wasn't considered demonized in our hall, back in 79.

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BIBLE STUDENTS, ..WTS and FINANCE

by MacHislopp in

jw
friends

i have something that puzzles me, i'll try to explain:.

first part: let's go back in time: 1879, 1880, 1880:.

*** yb75 38 united states of america part one.

somebody

Larc,

I don't think your opinion if the site I posted was harsh at all. I'm not offended, for I didn't gather the info on the site. I noticed that there werent too many references to the information provided, but there was "some" references. I've read alot in encyclopedia about the history of cults, and alot about C T Russell. Nobody says we have to believe everything we read. I provided the link so Mac, or anyone else could read it. if I find something thatI don't think is true that I read on the net, I'll research it more. I was simply providing a site that I read. That's it. Personally, I believe most what I've read about Russell's history. That doesn't mean anyone else has to.

I found it to be the strangest mish-mash of information, speculation, heresay, and fractured logic I have ever seen in my life.

That's excacly how I felt about most of the "spiritual food" the WBTS published too.

Who put this raving dialogue together in the first place?

I have no idea. I found it on the net, and tossed alot out, and saved some of it too. In case you didn't notice, when I quoted info about the founders of the JWs and Mormons, i DID say " according to it". I was just simply sharing information that I found with Mac. He, like anyone else, can use it, or can it. We all have that option, and make our own decisions. Right?

peace,
somebody

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A friend of mine partook

by hippikon in

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friends

a friend of mine partook of the emblems the other day.

now the elders want to speak with him.

i know he lurks hear so i want him to see your answers?

somebody

A friend of mine partook of the Emblems the other day. Now the elders want to speak with him. What should he do?

If he decides to agree to speak with the elders, then he should just be honest. If he is anointed, then tell him to just say so. If he was just thirsty, tell him to say that too.

I know he lurks hear so I want him to see your answers? I think he has a death wish or something. Its as if he wants to get dfd.

to hipp's lurking friend, ( yeah...you. )

To be disfellowshipped by the elders, deosn't eqaul death. (and I hope you're not really wishing for death!) According to elders, people only get df'd if they are unrepentent sinners. Seeing as how being anointed is NOT a sin, then one can't be repentent for it. Therefore, to disfellowship for such a thing, would be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. If elders even hold a judicial committe, ask them what "sin" you committed to make them form the juding committee to begin with. Tell them you want it in writing, with scriptures saying that it's a sin to be anointed.

peace,
somebody

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BIBLE STUDENTS, ..WTS and FINANCE

by MacHislopp in

jw
friends

i have something that puzzles me, i'll try to explain:.

first part: let's go back in time: 1879, 1880, 1880:.

*** yb75 38 united states of america part one.

somebody

1922 This was proved in a court of law. The founders of both "faiths", the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, were of the Illuminati bloodline. Charles Taze Russell, who founded the Watchtower Society (JWs), was of the Illuminati Russell bloodline, which also founded the infamous Skull and Bones Society at Yale University. Charles Taze Russell was a Satanist, a pedophile according to his wife, and a friend of the Rothschild's. Indeed it was the Rothschild's who funded the Jehovah's Witness operation into being, along with other Illuminati bankers,...

That is a quote from the site I linked. According to it, Russell was NOT the founder of the mormon religion. both founders (of the JWs and Mormons) were of the Illuminati bloodline is what it says.

peace,
somebody

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BIBLE STUDENTS, ..WTS and FINANCE

by MacHislopp in

jw
friends

i have something that puzzles me, i'll try to explain:.

first part: let's go back in time: 1879, 1880, 1880:.

*** yb75 38 united states of america part one.

somebody

My second question is : Who helped CT Russell? Were those "ekklesia's "
already established under different denominations?

MacHislopp,

Here is some more info on the subject of "who helped Russell". http://pages.about.com/treborr/illuminatihistory19011970.htm

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I've Decided To Go Back. Goodbye Everyone.

by Englishman in

jw
friends

i've been thinking about doing this for almost a year now.. ever since i left i have wanted to go back.. my wife is coming with me too.. it's not just me either, 4 of my closest friends are coming to take a look.. i really do like the people too.. so, it's almost time for me to say goodbye.. because this sunday i shall be going.. i'm off on holiday to madeira again!!!

but i'll be back in about 10 days, so goodbye until then.. keep bashing the wt!

engishman.

somebody

You scared me there for a minute!

Keep bashing the WT!

Count me in!

Have a nice trip. thanks for the link, Maderia looks beautiful. Don't have too much fun now. you know what that leads to!

peace,
somebody
PS....will I fit in your suitcase? can you sneak me along for the trip?

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GWM seeking LTR

by rabotnik in

hairy hunchback, covered with boils, seeking ricky martin clone who appreciates a fine hump.

must be willing to mop up sputum and empty chamber pot.

romamtic evenings riding the bus and wandering the aisles of wal-mart.

somebody

Doh! I should have known that! I knew I'd regret asking that. Thanks ,robotnik

peace,
somebody

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Advise.

by Texasbred in

i'm not really sure where to go with this, but i stumbled across this site.... and it seems like as good a place as any..... anyway, i've recently begun dating a jehovah's witness woman, and after educating myself on the religion, i'm a bit disturbed.

i've searched information provided by the watchtower and by anti-jw's, and i realize that problems will arise in the future.. i've read the "official" stance on interfaith marriages and relationships is one of "tolerance and respect" .... but what are the "actual" views within the church?.

the bottom line is: i really like this woman and she doesn't seem "fanatical" about being a jw (ie.

somebody

hi Texasbred,

my advise would be to tell her what you found in your research about her religion. From what you've already told us, she probably would be open to hear what you've found. Even direct her here if you'd like.

peace,
somebody