i'm a newby here and was wondering the % of christians vs. .
non.rough estimate fine.
i sure like the comradery here for ex"s. but wonder why so many here leave their belief in god altogether.. what is it that caused disbelief?
Franc,
The term "Christian" has come to be identifed with unrelenting bloodshed and strife, it means a religion without morals, business without ethics and an un believeable ability to rationalize hatred, and even murder all in the name of God.
That is one reason why I choose to not to join any religion. People can be Christains or believers without buying membership into of any group or church or religion. Being a believer is not a religion for some of us.
peace,
somebody
i'm a newby here and was wondering the % of christians vs. .
non.rough estimate fine.
i sure like the comradery here for ex"s. but wonder why so many here leave their belief in god altogether.. what is it that caused disbelief?
hiya,gumby
I walked away from the JW movement/group/cult/sect, or whatever one wishes to call it, 21 years ago. I still believe in God. I consider myself an imature Christian.
peace,
somebody
reading farkel's thoughts about being called names, and remembering my own discouragement about the same thing, and thinking about all the posts recently decrying the fighting and bad language, i'm curious to know how my "seeker" persona is perceived here.
i know i have fought with some, made friends with others, so how i am perceived will be varied.
i want to know it all, the good, the bad, the ugly.
Seeker,
I enjoyed reading your thoughts on H20, and still enjoy them here.
I like ya. (no....not just because you're a scorpio)
What do you think of Seeker (good or bad)?
Good or bad at what?
peace,
somebody
~~"And now, as the critical year of 1975 enters, it may well be asked: Has the Most High God of prophecy made a name for himself? The answer is self-evident, Yes! By whom? Not by Christendom or by Jewry, but by Jehovah's Christian witnesses!"~~ WBTS.... Watchtower..December 15,1974
i notice that because the jw's point out flaws with the churches doctrines and beliefs that instead of fixing or repenting or solving the issues it's easier for church people to form a backlash whether it's honest or falacious in order to displace blame and smokescreen their own inadequacies.. you can not heal yourself by pointing out anothers wounds, you also can not solve your problems by displacing them instead of admiting and addressing them.. if a jw or anyone else points out the problem of abuse in the church then by pointing out an abuse in the jw elders does not solve the issues of the church abuses neither is it repentance as repentance should be.. if you can't discuss the bible and resons why you fall short and trasngress then by bringing up personal issues or attacking each other like jackals does not change those transgressions it just adds more.. as an outsider i must say all of you are like animals on their prey simply because you didn't like being exposed for your false testiments and false practices.
this means your emotional and psychological and spiritual level is far from being grown up.. will you dare persecute me for pointing out such observations?
a spiritually grown person will reflect on what i say, admit to it and try to change, but a child of darkness will feel their ego hurt and group rpide kicks in causing a person not grown to become defensive bitter and mean/perhaps even spiteful.
COMF,
Your toes are curled up in hopeful anticipation, aren't they.
I wish I would have seen that before I even bothered to respond to MikeNight's words.
oh well...live and learn.
peace,
somebody
i notice that because the jw's point out flaws with the churches doctrines and beliefs that instead of fixing or repenting or solving the issues it's easier for church people to form a backlash whether it's honest or falacious in order to displace blame and smokescreen their own inadequacies.. you can not heal yourself by pointing out anothers wounds, you also can not solve your problems by displacing them instead of admiting and addressing them.. if a jw or anyone else points out the problem of abuse in the church then by pointing out an abuse in the jw elders does not solve the issues of the church abuses neither is it repentance as repentance should be.. if you can't discuss the bible and resons why you fall short and trasngress then by bringing up personal issues or attacking each other like jackals does not change those transgressions it just adds more.. as an outsider i must say all of you are like animals on their prey simply because you didn't like being exposed for your false testiments and false practices.
this means your emotional and psychological and spiritual level is far from being grown up.. will you dare persecute me for pointing out such observations?
a spiritually grown person will reflect on what i say, admit to it and try to change, but a child of darkness will feel their ego hurt and group rpide kicks in causing a person not grown to become defensive bitter and mean/perhaps even spiteful.
peace,
somebody....the happy to be a "child of darkness" class in this case.
Six,
Ain't that the truth! ( although I'm confessing that I had to look up that big word you used ) And what you said leads to more thoughts. THe wbts RARELY provide "evidence" when they use the word. Nor when they use the word "facts" either. They NEVER give reference to "facts" ! Not to mention that they have their own definiiton of the word " reasonable". Actually, they don't even know what the word means!
I'll be damned to hell if they ....nevermind. You're getting me on a roll.
Like you said, some things are just funny ...and ya just have to laugh. There is no other way to deal with it. (thinking of zev here)
peace,
somebody
zev,
I have come across SO many flip-flops and other fecal matter regarding what kind of spiritual food the WBTS keep vomiting up in print to feed their members. It is NOT a wonder that JWs don't know what to think or which way to turn. It's not like members are free to ask or disgree, or just come out and say that they want to eat somewhere else for a spiritual diet.
Take a look back and reread what you bolded from the 1995 watchtower.
Now take a look at the last quote you provided from the JUNE of 97 watchtower.
Keep that in mind and then read this quote from the AUGUST 1997 watchtower (2 months AFTER the June quote):
8/15/97 Wathtower....in the article, Living for Today, or an Eternal Future?
(bolding is mine)
"Furthermore, the Bible clearly states that it is "on account of the chosen ones" that the opening phase of the great tribulation will be "cut short." (Matthew 24:21, 22) Most of those professing to be of the anointed are quite elderly. Again, would this not indicate that the end is close at hand? "
I have so much more to add!
peace,
somebody
hi gang, .
to make it easier for the out of towners (especially the ones driving in from the us), how does everyone feel about having our next get together on a saturday...say saturday, august 18th, starting at 4pm?
(i'll be working on the 11th and the 25th...).
peterstride, had enough, and the whole gang,
I'm sorry that I can't make it this month but I already have my ride for the next get together.
A co-worker said he'd gladly take me to the next get together. He's never been a JW but he offered anyway. SO...
I'll see ya's all next time!
peace,
somebody
PS.....Don't forget to post to let us all know how great a time you all had.
hi gang, .
to make it easier for the out of towners (especially the ones driving in from the us), how does everyone feel about having our next get together on a saturday...say saturday, august 18th, starting at 4pm?
(i'll be working on the 11th and the 25th...).
I can't make it either of those weekends!
I'll try for next time. Are the get-togethers going to be like an every other month thing?
somebody
when a difficulty is deep and painful, the triumph is glorious and jubilant.. -spartacus 2001
"Shut up brain or I'll stab you with a q-tip!" -Homer Simpson
"And now, as the critical year of 1975 enters, it may well be asked: Has the Most High God of prophecy made a name for himself? The answer is self-evident, Yes! By whom? Not by Christendom or by Jewry, but by Jehovah's Christian witnesses!"~~ WBTS.... Watchtower..December 15,1974
somebody
