woo hoo!
Ken, that is some great news. I hope all goes well now, for little Emily and family. It looks as if it will.
peace,
somebody
good news!
emily is home with her family.
you should have heard her little brother when i told him she was home after i picked him up from school.
woo hoo!
Ken, that is some great news. I hope all goes well now, for little Emily and family. It looks as if it will.
peace,
somebody
does anyone have any ideas on how to find a friend?
this is a childhood friend that i have not heard of for 12 years.
are there any free websites that can run a search on people (even if they do not have an email address)?
If you know what school he or she graduated from, you can always try www.classmates.com too.
peace,
somebody
my one year aniversary that is on jwd .
to each and every one of you who has corresponded with me on threads or in email, even though i haven't been such a good boy in answering right away.
this is a great place.
zev,
It's amazing that a year has gone by already. While it certainly has been a painful year for you, I'm fortunate that I had the opportunity to watch you grow. ( should I rephrase that? ) It's not easy to watch someone hurt and suffer the mental anguish in exiting a cult. Leaving a cult literally effects your whole life, in one way or another,as you know. Sometimes in more ways than one.
I'm happy to see you and that you're doing just fine, after all the dark times. It's also wonderful getting to know you in person again after 22 years.
You've also helped many others, by posting your thoughts, experiences, and information.
congatualtions and peace to you!
somebody
harmageddon was supposed to occur in the fall of 1975, but nothing happened.
who should have taken the blame?
the gb?
Here is just a clue as to who is to blame.
These are some of the quotes from the "society's" publications that lead up to the 1975 deal. These are only from watchtowers. the were plenty more in the Truth That leads to Eternal Life book too. Not to mention what was said to all at assemblies back then to contribute to Witnesses preparing for the end of the "old system", and the "new system" to arrive.
Watchtower 10/15/66
"Only a liberated people can preach a release to captives, conventioners were told in the speech "Preach a Release to the Captives," which thrilled them with its hopeful outlook. "Jehovah, the God of freedom and liberty, has freed his people from Babylonish bondage and has given them a work of liberation to do. That work of liberation and salvation must go on to the finish! To give aid today in this critical time to prospective sons of God," announced President Knorr, "a new book in English, entitled 'Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God,' has been published." At all assembly points where it was released, the book was received enthusiastically. Crowds gathered around stands and soon supplies of the book were depleted. Immediately its contents were examined. It did not take the brothers very long to find the chart beginning on page 31, showing that 6,000 years of man's existence end in 1975. Discussion of 1975 overshadowed about everything else. "The new book compels us to realize that Armageddon is, in fact, very close indeed," said a conventioner. Surely it was one of the outstanding blessings to be carried home!"
Watchtower 1/1/67
(This article titled Have You Read Your Copy? it was encouraging people to read their copy of their Life Everlasting-in Freedom of the Sons of God! book yet...)
"But, without a doubt, nothing has created more interest in this textbook than the first chapter with its chart and fine information regarding the 7,000 years of God's rest day. The observation that 1975 may well mark the beginning of mankind's great Jubilee has intrigued many."
Watchtower 4/15/67
According to a more recent calculation of the Bible timetable, six thousand years of man's existence will end in the latter half of the year 1975, which is well within this century.
Watchtower 5/1/67
"Interestingly, the autumn of the year 1975 marks the end of 6,000 years of human experience. This is ascertainable from reliable chronology preserved in the Bible itself. What will that year mean for humankind? Will it be the time when God executes the wicked and starts off the thousand-year reign of his Son Jesus Christ? It very well could, but we will have to wait to see. Yet of this we can be certain: the generation that Jesus said would witness those events is nearing its close. The time is close at hand. On God's "timetable" we are in the closing days of a wicked system of things that will soon be gone forever. A glorious new order is immediately before us."
Watchtower 5/1/68
5 Therefore, God's seventh day and the time man has been on earth apparently run parallel. To calculate where man is in the stream of time relative to God's seventh day of 7,000 years, we need to determine how long a time has elapsed from the year of Adam and Eve's creation in 4026 B.C.E. From the autumn of that year to the autumn of 1 B.C.E., there would be 4,025 years. From the autumn of 1 B.C.E. to the autumn of 1 C.E. is one year (there was no zero year). From the autumn of 1 C.E. to the autumn of 1967 is a total of 1,966 years. Adding 4,025 and 1 and 1,966, we get 5,992 years from the autumn of 4026 B.C.E. to the autumn of 1967. Thus, eight years remain to account for a full 6,000 years of the seventh day. Eight years from the autumn of 1967 would bring us to the autumn of 1975, fully 6,000 years into God's seventh day, his rest day.
Watchtower 8/15/68
"29 After much of the mathematics and genealogies, really, of what benefit is this information to us today? Is it not all dead history, as uninteresting and profitless as walking through a cemetery copying old dates off tombstones? After all, why should we be any more interested in the date of Adam's creation than in the birth of King Tut? Well, for one thing, if 4,026 is added to 1,968 (allowing for the lack of a zero year between C.E. and B.C.E.) one gets a total of 5,993 years, come this autumn, since Adam's creation. That means, in the fall of the year 1975, a little over seven years from now (and not in 1997 as would be the case if Ussher's figures were correct), it will be 6,000 years since the creation of Adam, the father of all mankind!"
Watchtower 5/1/70
"However, Bible chronology which indicates that Adam was created in the fall of the year 4026 B.C.E. would bring us down to the year 1975 C.E. as the date marking 6,000 years of human history with yet 1,000 years to come for Christ's Kingdom rule. So whatever the date for the end of this system, it is clear that the time left is reduced, with only approximately six years left until the end of 6,000 years of human history.(1 Cor. 7:29) "
Watchtower 12/15/74
"To advertise the divine name still further, on March 1, 1939, some months before World War II broke out, the official magazine of the Witnesses came forth with the new legend, "The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom." And now, as the critical year of 1975 enters, it may well be asked: Has the Most High God of prophecy made a name for himself? The answer is self-evident, Yes! By whom? Not by Christendom or by Jewry, but by Jehovah's Christian witnesses!"
"And now, as the year 1975 opens up, some thousands of the anointed remnant, still alive on this earth, look ahead to realizing that joyful prospect. The increasing "great crowd" of their sheeplike companions look forward with them to entering the New Order without interruption of life."
peace,
somebody
in the wt 01-15-01 page 31 i quote:.
at the conclusion of the annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania on october 7, 2000, a special announcement was made by the chairman, john e. barr of the governing body.
{zev note:included below} making a very significant point, brother barr stated: "the faithful and discreet slave' and its governing body have had entrusted to them interests that are higher and far more encompassing than those granted to legal corporations.
one could be...
The Paulian Congregation Of Apostate Opposers
somebody
in the wt 01-15-01 page 31 i quote:.
at the conclusion of the annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania on october 7, 2000, a special announcement was made by the chairman, john e. barr of the governing body.
{zev note:included below} making a very significant point, brother barr stated: "the faithful and discreet slave' and its governing body have had entrusted to them interests that are higher and far more encompassing than those granted to legal corporations.
I wonder how long it will take them to create a separate corporation just to handle calls and letters from aprostates.
I can think of a few good things they could name it.
peace,
somebody
in the wt 01-15-01 page 31 i quote:.
at the conclusion of the annual meeting of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania on october 7, 2000, a special announcement was made by the chairman, john e. barr of the governing body.
{zev note:included below} making a very significant point, brother barr stated: "the faithful and discreet slave' and its governing body have had entrusted to them interests that are higher and far more encompassing than those granted to legal corporations.
Do you think that the wbts are splitting up their assets in preparation for lawsuits coming their way? anyone care to take a guess as to why they keep forming more companies?
peace,
somebody
my judicial meeting took place on monday night.
i was a bit annoyed because the meeting centered on my private beliefs - things that i've already spoken to the elders about in the past many times before.
i don't think i handled myself as well as i wanted to, but i guess i did ok under the circumstances.
By the end of the meeting it was clear that I was going to be DF'd.
So much for the JW's and their leader's claims that anyone who wishes to is just free to leave.
Sounds like you did a great job in handling being stuck between a rock and a hard place. Congatualations on your freedom!
I'd like to hear the mp3 file. so please send it to me. and....did you ever save that letter you had written to your dad? I hope you did. For yourself.
peace to you,
somebody
part 2: torn between two worlds .
in late november 1989 we decided to visit our new town, and see our new house.
we scoped out the small town for its amenities, and this included a visit to the kingdom hall where we would eventually attend.. hindsight, being 20-20, i regret now that i did not try to get my family out of the organization before the move.
Amazing,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts,feelings,and experiences in your road to freedom with all of us here. I'm happy that you got through all the dark times as you sufferend your internal battle. I'm happy for both you, and your family.
I too, along with the others who have said so, am looking forward to the rest of your chapters. I've been printing them out to save. They are keepers.
God bless.
peace,
somebody
to simon and angharad for making this place possible.
to all of the wonderful people i've met here.
when my husband was posting on h2o, i would read over his shoulder, and he would read aloud to me some of the controversial subject matter.
tracy,
although I'd like to spank you, I can see you're getting your due. so in that case, I'll just be a watcher/observer of you paying.
on a more serious note, I'm so glad I got to know you on the board, and in the chat. Through both, I can see that you are a person with a wonderful sense of humor and have a gift of giving people smiles, and you are a person who can be serious when others are in need of a shoulder to cry on.
HAPPY 1000th! and I'm really looking forward to someday meeting you in person.
peace,
somebody