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I don't like the person i am becoming...

by SpunkedTeen in

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i have not been active here lately just lurking mostly but i have no one to talk to and i need some help i guess.i started working out and became friends with my personal trainer(we went to school together).i started going out with him(lying to my mother about what i was doing,another thing to add to the list of lies,it's becoming too easy!

) and i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.i've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.i always thought the values that jw's taught were really good.if i cut ties with the only friend i have now , i would probably slip into a deep depression and i that is something that i want to avoid at all costs.i start university in january and my plan was to stick it out in the organisation until i got my degree and became fully independant but as of late a elder told me i am being considered to become a m.s and told me what i need to work on and since then the other elders have been nagging me to work on the same things.i'm trying to rid my self of my 'priveleges' in the cong but nothings working...if anyone has experienced a similar situation what advice would you give?

, oh and my mom was always super into the religion having been a pioneer and bethel worker for years but we went to the regional convention two weeks ago and now she is even more exasperating (for example a sister asked my why i was 19 years old and not a ms or serving at bethel yet, which is fine i've learnt how to deal with these questions but when i told my mother whom has always been content with me just being in the religion and never pushed me towards anything asked me if i was happy with what i was and if i would not be happier at bethel or regular pioneering.

somebody

" i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.I've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone."

"worldly people", as you and anyone who has ever been involved in the JW cult means.."EVERYONE WHO IS NOT A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS" even though as you also know, they will not admit to. And I have to say that almost ALL the people I have known and met throughout my life of over 50 years who were not and are not JWs and have never been were never "very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone."

If you are a teen though, your feelings are normal and this too shall pass. Teen years and sometimes a few years after are very tough. No matter who we are, what religion we are, or no religion and no matter what color we are.

Stay strong and do your best to treat others like you want to be treated by others yourself. And keep that thought in your mind and heart for the rest of your life, no matter who you meet or become friends with.

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FOLLOWING/WALKING BEHIND

by somebody in

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according to this publication published by none other than those who want to gain followers of themselves, christ assigned the preaching work to themselves and not jehovah's witnesses.. *** w07 4/1 pp.

24-25 loyal to christ and his faithful slave ***.

giving loyal support.

somebody

The scripture that was quoted in the above WBTS INC. corporation publication: Bolding is mine.

Isaiah 45:14 NWT

14 This is what Jehovah says: “The profit of Egypt and the merchandise of E·thi·oʹpi·a and the Sa·beʹans, tall of stature, Will come over to you and become yours. They will walk behind you in chains. They will come over and bow down to you. To you they will say in prayer, ‘Surely God is with you, And there is no one else; there is no other God.’”

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FOLLOWING/WALKING BEHIND

by somebody in

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according to this publication published by none other than those who want to gain followers of themselves, christ assigned the preaching work to themselves and not jehovah's witnesses.. *** w07 4/1 pp.

24-25 loyal to christ and his faithful slave ***.

giving loyal support.

somebody

According to this publication published by none other than those who want to gain followers of THEMSELVES, Christ assigned the preaching work to THEMSELVES and NOT Jehovah's Witnesses.

*** w07 4/1 pp. 24-25 Loyal to Christ and His Faithful Slave ***

Giving Loyal Support

14 The humble submission of the other sheep to the anointed members of spiritual Israel was foretold in the prophecy of Isaiah: “This is what Jehovah has said: ‘The unpaid laborers of Egypt and the merchants of Ethiopia and the Sabeans, tall men, will themselves come over even to you, and yours they will become. Behind you they will walk; in fetters they will come over, and to you they will bow down. To you they will pray, saying, “Indeed God is in union with you, and there is no one else; there is no other God.”’” (Isaiah 45:14) Symbolically, the other sheep today walk behind the anointed slave class and its Governing Body, following their leadership. As “unpaid laborers,” the other sheep willingly expend their physical strength and their resources in support of the worldwide preaching work that Christ assigned to his anointed followers on earth.—Acts 1:8; Revelation 12:17.

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Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors

by sp74bb in

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letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .

spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.

again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.

somebody

LIARS!

*** km 11/93 p. 5 par. 29 Youths—Make Jehovah’s Heart Rejoice ***

29 Pioneers, what can you do to help? Why not review your schedule to see how to involve schoolchildren in your arrangements for afternoons and weekends?

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Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors

by sp74bb in

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letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .

spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.

again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.

somebody

LIARS!

*** km 11/02 p. 8 par. 5 Show Loving Interest in “Fatherless Boys” ***

5 Likewise today, how beneficial it is when spiritually mature brothers and sisters take a loving interest in the fatherless boys and girls in the congregation! Do you know each one by name? Do you talk with them at Christian meetings and on other occasions? Invite them to join you in the field ministry

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Mouthy has Passed Away

by Simon in

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update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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No blood Cards are back??????

by dugout in

at the meeting last night, at the annoucments at end of meeting they said make sure u take your ped card.

i said to myself what is a ped card?

blood cards are back.

somebody

dugout, the WTS was also wrong about organ transplants and "blood fraction transfusions " too. I wouldn't play around with that either and I certainly WOULD NOT SACRIFICE my child's life if a blood transfusion was all that was needed to save their life, when they were children. Now they are adults and both are in the medical know.

And I can tell you right now, that if I hadn't received TWO blood transfusions during my life, I would NOT be here right now typing this! :-)

peace,

somebody

P.S. I'd like to see a copy of the card now too if anyone can provide it here! It would be much appreciated by many of us!

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Are you sad or angry?

by raven in

after exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?

right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.

i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.

somebody

This whole thread makes me sad. I'm happy that others can share their pain here, but this is why it makes me SO MAD when JWs say things such as " anyone is FREE to leave the organization" AND the JW.org site claims that JWs " DO NOT SHUN those who leave the organization". It is ALL lies! People who just choose to leave and state that they choose to leave ARE SHUNNED AND TREATED AS IF THEY ARE UNREPENTANT SINNERS. THEY ARE TREATED THE SAME AS IF THEY ARE A DISFELLOWSHIPED JW !

My heart goes out to Raven and all of you who have been tossed out of your families and your loved ones. For real.

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A sucker is born every minute

by Sour Grapes in

i was an elder in the 1970's and i was not a big fan of the "stay alive until 75" dogma.

i was looked down upon by the heavy hitters on the body of elders and in time i changed my mind.

i knew of the failed prophecy of 1914 being the end of all times which was repeated for the year 1925...yet i came to believe well maybe this time they've got it right.. with every new watchtower, i combed over every word to find support for my change in my belief that the end was coming in fall of 1975. at the district assembly in 1975, everyone clung onto every word in the final talk.

somebody

It's SO frustrating to say the least, Sour Grapes! I understand what you are going through. Nice name, as Sour Grapes in VERY understandable. Some people will never admit that their are legitimate reasons for becoming sour. Being deceived and lied to by people who taught you to trust them and be loyal to them is just two reasons!

peace,

somebody

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My heart's not in it

by What is Truth? in

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you know how when your asked to talk about something your not interested in how annoying it is, or difficult to debate something from the opposite side of your view.

after learning ttatt i've come to regard the nonsense the org spouts as quite evil then to have to give parts about how great it is makes me hate it that much more.. story aside, what might you say to the elders to get them to dismiss it or get off your back if you told them your heart's not in it any more?.

not the obvious it's a stupid hypocritical cult that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth..

somebody

If you look back a little for SAHS post, he or she said what is below. That person said much more but I would just say, " I dedicated my life to GOD, and not to any human, any group of humans, any work, or any organization when I got baptized". And I prefer to and WILL keep it that way. And then just tell anyone questioning you that you don't wish to discuss it any further. And I would say that whether you still believe in God or not. It'll give you time to yourself to search online or /and your heart and come to a conclusion either way.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5665189600952320/big-boldfaced-lie-meeting-workbook-august-1-7-2016

There is a fundamental lie which I couldn’t help noticing today in the Our Christian Life and Ministry—Meeting Workbook for August 1-7, 2016. It is in the little supplemental page considered this week under the title “Improving Our Skills in the Ministry—Helping Bible Students to Progress to Dedication and Baptism,” in the first paragraph (labelled “WHY IMPORTANT”), third sentence. Here is that sentence:
“A Christian’s dedication is to Jehovah—not to a human, a work, or an organization.”