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  Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?

  by blondie in

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  i have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.

  i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.

  it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.

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  Interesting debate, with some insightful comments.

  I agree, 'normal' people don't shoot people. At the same time, I can't understand the situation in the USA with easy access to weapons. Its just crazy.
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  New HuB logo

  by MrHappy in

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  so the organisation has developed a new software for the coordination of nearly everything!

  i just want point out a few things i notice about the new hub icon logo.

  the image contains twelve pillars with the 2 at the front being the prominent.

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  I doubt that they wrote this from scratch themselves. I would go with Poztate's they are using a 'cloud' based solution. This would provide all the basics and a framework on which they build using their own code.

  In the video looks to me as if the guy is writing some T SQL server code, i.e. database code. In coding terms, I guess they have had to create hundreds of new 'theocratic' entities - CO (extends Elder), Elder (extends Publisher), etc. I could be well in to it - lol.
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  This week's Watchtower study - Really, really, really?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  interesting to see how they home in doctrines that are impossible to defend, even solely from a bible point of view, and state them as facts that only satan would question.. no same sex marriages - really?.

  don't celebrate christmas and birthdays - really?.

  refuse a life-saving blood transfusion - really?

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  Here is the actual quote from paragraph 16 of the article entitled 'Overturn Every Reasoning That Is Against the Knowledge of God!'

  Satan continues to ask the same question he asked Eve in the garden of Eden: “Did God really say that . . . ?” (Gen. 3:1) In the world under Satan’s control, we often hear challenging questions, such as these: ‘Does God really not approve of same-sex marriage? Does God really not want you to celebrate Christmas and birthdays? Does your God really expect you to refuse a blood transfusion? Does a loving God really expect you to avoid association with disfellowshipped loved ones?’
  
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  This week's Watchtower study - Really, really, really?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  interesting to see how they home in doctrines that are impossible to defend, even solely from a bible point of view, and state them as facts that only satan would question.. no same sex marriages - really?.

  don't celebrate christmas and birthdays - really?.

  refuse a life-saving blood transfusion - really?

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  eyeslice2

  Interesting to see how they home in doctrines that are impossible to defend, even solely from a Bible point of view, and state them as facts that only Satan would question.

  no same sex marriages - really?

  don't celebrate Christmas and birthdays - really?

  refuse a life-saving blood transfusion - really? (Watchtower just said blood transfusion - won't admit could be life saving)

  avoid association with family members - really (Watchtower speak for shunning)

  The Watchtower, as always, states these as givens, with no real supporting arguments to defend these.
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  Will directing people to jw.org actually prove counter productive?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  there was a time when the society was very skeptical about the internet and the so-called lies and apostate information that was out there.

  it sort of was something to be avoided.

  over the past ten years, however, it seems they have taken to it with a passion.

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  so how does all this work in coutries with little or no internet---and the populace couldnt afford a tablet or phone anyway ?
  

  I think you would be surprised just how ubiquitous mobile technology is nowadays. Most developing countries are simply skipping the phase of telephone lines into private houses and going straight for mobile solutions. India has something like 800,000 mobile contracts. So, even the poor have mobiles, albeit at present not 'smart' phones. The same is true of the rest of Asia and Africa is going that way too.

  All of this is why the society pushes jw.org. Print is going out of fashion and so they want to be on the bandwagon.
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  Will directing people to jw.org actually prove counter productive?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  there was a time when the society was very skeptical about the internet and the so-called lies and apostate information that was out there.

  it sort of was something to be avoided.

  over the past ten years, however, it seems they have taken to it with a passion.

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  Also, the society is printing less and less literature. Many presentations the publisher says something to the effect of, 'I'd like to show you how to download a book you can read'.
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  Will directing people to jw.org actually prove counter productive?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  there was a time when the society was very skeptical about the internet and the so-called lies and apostate information that was out there.

  it sort of was something to be avoided.

  over the past ten years, however, it seems they have taken to it with a passion.

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  There was a time when the society was very skeptical about the internet and the so-called lies and apostate information that was out there. It sort of was something to be avoided. Over the past ten years, however, it seems they have taken to it with a passion. Publishers even are told as part of their door to door presentations to encourage householders to visit jw.org, but will this actually turn out to be counter productive?

  The internet is there to be explored, and if it were me, I may check out jw.org but at the same time just google 'jehovah's witnesses' and find a stack of information about the witnesses, including this site. So, whilst the died in the wool witnesses may continue to avoid the lies and apostasy, I can't see many converts being made with this approach.
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  Dangerous promotion of 'Serving where the need is Greater'

  by eyeslice2 in

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  both the june and july broadcasts featured sections about serving where the need is greater.

  as i recall, my wife watches them as i hover in the background, india and thailand have both been heavily featured.

  next, i hear some friends talking about how they are thinking of moving to india.

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  has the wt just sold off the Indian branch office?

  They moved from a place called Pune about 18 years ago to a large facility in Bangalore but I think they have or are in the process of down sizing the Bangalore set up now.
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  Dangerous promotion of 'Serving where the need is Greater'

  by eyeslice2 in

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  both the june and july broadcasts featured sections about serving where the need is greater.

  as i recall, my wife watches them as i hover in the background, india and thailand have both been heavily featured.

  next, i hear some friends talking about how they are thinking of moving to india.

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  Both the June and July broadcasts featured sections about serving where the need is greater. As I recall, my wife watches them as I hover in the background, India and Thailand have both been heavily featured. Next, I hear some friends talking about how they are thinking of moving to India. Both India and Thailand, however, are extremely difficult countries to get to grips with in terms of visas, healthcare, housing, language etc., the list goes on.

  My experience is that those who do go, are generally genuine, really caring people but are these being pushed into difficult, if not sometimes dangerous, circumstances? Often too, the folks who go, sell their homes and cars, thus burning a lot of bridges should they have to return in the future. They get no assistance from the Society and so it is all done at their own risk.

  I am sure that if you were to challenge the powers that be about this they would brush it of with 'well Jehovah will care for these brothers and sisters and besides they have to sit down and as Jesus said "count the cost"'.

  Another thought, has' serving where the need is greater' become the new 'Bethel Service', given there are no or at most limited opportunities nowadays?
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  No careers in this cheapskate organization

  by eyeslice2 in

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  if you go to jw.org, you can download the program for 2019 convention.. what i notice is that nowadays there is no meeting for ones wishing to serve at bethel or for those interested in gilead missionary school.

  rather, there is just a meeting for those interested in 'the school for kingdom evangelizers'.. two things strike me about this.

  first, although there was once a big play on bethel and gilead being held out as career options, this is now just about dead and buried.

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  eyeslice2

  If you go to jw.org, you can download the program for 2019 Convention.

  What I notice is that nowadays there is no meeting for ones wishing to serve at Bethel or for those interested in Gilead missionary school. Rather, there is just a meeting for those interested in 'The School for Kingdom Evangelizers'.

  Two things strike me about this. First, although there was once a big play on Bethel and Gilead being held out as career options, this is now just about dead and buried. Bethels have been downsized, and the society just wants to cherry pick what skills they need, often on a temporary basis. Gilead is not a school for the average pioneer to aspire to, its a school to train died in wool company men who are likely to be needed as troubleshooter and enforcers for the organization at some point.

  It's all really cheapskate. The Society has no commitment, financially or otherwise to training and mentoring individuals for the work it needs doing. Sure, 'The School for Kingdom Evangelizers' sounds good on paper but think about it. You have to have struggled on for years as a pioneer, totally funding yourself. If you get invited, you are expected to make your own way there, and stay with brothers and sisters in the local congregation - at the their costs. Then suppose your are assigned to somewhere there is a 'need', are there any re-location costs? I think not.

  Still young ones are encouraged not to pursue 'worldly' careers but rather take up the full time service. Great choice, an occupation leading nowhere, with nothing to show in 40 years time.