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  WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

  by You Know in

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  some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

  it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

  presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

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  Interesting post ... I agree with most of it ... I am actually able to weed through the Lyndon Larouche and some of the other nonsense put forward by You Know.

  I do think the markets are in a near meltdown ... my investments (401k etc) have suffered tremendously, and we are close to seeing Dow closing below 9000 for the first time in a long while.

  The interesting thing is that there have been increasing references by the Society emphasizing loyalty and devotion to "God's organization here on earth". They certainly would not agree with You Know that

  it is possible to be loyal to the Society without having our faith bound by their every utterance.

  I'm just of the mindset that it doesn't necessarily follow that God must have an organization here on earth. I prefer a personal one-on-one relationship rather than using some "channel."
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  WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

  by You Know in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

  it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

  presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

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  Edited to delete duplicate post.

  Edited by - Southland on 26 June 2002 10:49:53
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  WHY D.A YOURSELF??

  by In_between_days in

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  hi guys,.

  this is a question for those that have dissasociated yourselves, and it might seem really stupid.. a while back i had a conversation with my parents in which i claimed that if i had ever been baptised i would have certainly dissasociated myself.

  i asked whether or not they would still have contact with me.. they said yes, but would avoid having me at family gatherings.. i was not happy with this, but at least it was'nt as bad as shunning.. despite my standing now, my parents are now starting to get over it, and have been great, i cannot imagine my parents shunning me, despite anything i am still their daughter.

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  I am neither DA or DF.

  From reading here, I think most of those DA did it so that they would feel "in control" rather than letting WT&BS being in control over them. Some of them were on the way to being DF if they had not DA first.

  Many of the others, me included, feel that going out in full glory and flames, while perhaps feeling good at the time, leads to the "shunning" problem. If you have friends or family in the truth, you don't want to be shunned by them. Going out quietly usually allows you to preserve some semblance of normalcy in your relationships.
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  um... help please from any medical types

  by lauralisa in

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  this is a bit off topic, but i hope someone might give me a little insight on a delicate matter here.. my significant other has applied for life insurance, and of course must have the obligatory "home visit" where they take his blood pressure, blood sample, pee sample, etc.. we are barely making ends meet as it is, and are trying to sign him up a a non-smoker.

  (he's gonna quit, anytime now.

  i swear.

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  Laura,

  It makes me (and others) feel bad to see someone in dire straights ... I really hope that things improve soon for you and your fiance. Continue to trust in yourself and listen to your own instincts on what you need to do.

  I don't know what your fiance is looking at for insurance, but I went to one of the popular web sites to look up insurance premiums for a 10-year $50,000 term policy. Since I don't know the specifics of your fiance, I made some assumptions:

  1) Your fiance can answer "No" to these questions:

  Have you been diagnosed with or treated for any of the following within the past three years: heart disease, chronic circulatory, respiratory (except asthma), kidney or liver disease, epilepsy, stroke, or cancer (other than basal-cell skin cancer)?

  Have you had 3 or more moving traffic violations within the past 3 years?

  Have you been convicted of a DUI/DWI within the last 7 years?

  To your knowledge, have your parents, brothers or sisters had cancer, heart disease or diabetes prior to age 60?

  Have you been diagnosed with Arthritis, Asthma (moderate or severe), depression (in past two years), elevated cholesterol, gastic/peptic ulcers (in two years), hypertension (high blood pressure)?

  2) He's 45 years old, living in Ohio (just an assumption, I don't know where you live), is 5'10" tall, and weighs 170 lbs.

  3) You wish to pay premiums quarterly (vs. once a month, twice a year, or yearly).

  4) Normal blood pressure and cholesterol levels

  The premium amount would be $240/year payable as $60/quarter. Or you could pay $20/month by automatic debit.

  Obviously this is based on the assumptions I made. If you want to provide more specifics, I can get you an more accurate quote.

  Just don't buy whole life or universal life. If you are struggling to make ends meet, you don't want the investment component of life insurance.

  Edited by - Southland on 25 June 2002 16:8:18
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  ?s for business and finance majors/workers

  by Leander in

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  i'm looking for information on how to get a loan from non conventional lending institutions.. .

  here's my scenario, i want to get started in real estate development.

  my goal is to purchase just enough land to build one single family home and once the house has been completed i'd like to sell it for market value.

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  Credit unions are an alternative ... many of them have 100% financing (usually in the form of 95% first and 5% second).
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  Someone at WTS hacking me?

  by Amazing in

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  did someone at wts attempt to hack me today?

  i don't know, but here is the summary from my event log and domain trace.

  this afternoon i received an "alert" on my firewall with an ip address.

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  Puffsrule,

  Most likely you are getting klez virus-infected emails from these people.
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  Barbara Anderson Disfellowshipped

  by silentlambs in

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  as of 1 pm today barb anderson was notified that she has been disfellowshipped in writing by the judicial committee in her congregation.

  barb was df in absentia at a second hearing that was declared after she successfully defended herself against charges in the first hearing.

  home office came back with further instructions to make it stick the second time around.

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  Does anyone know the outcome of her appeal? And whether SilentLambs had his judicial meeting yet?
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  um... help please from any medical types

  by lauralisa in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this is a bit off topic, but i hope someone might give me a little insight on a delicate matter here.. my significant other has applied for life insurance, and of course must have the obligatory "home visit" where they take his blood pressure, blood sample, pee sample, etc.. we are barely making ends meet as it is, and are trying to sign him up a a non-smoker.

  (he's gonna quit, anytime now.

  i swear.

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  Having worked for an insurance company, I suggest you think very, very carefully before proceeding with your plan.

  The whole purpose of having life insurance is to protect your family. If your significant other gets caught committing fraud, not only will you not get your policy issued, but the insurance company will report the fraud using a special code to the clearinghouse that all insurance companies use (called MIB). It will be nearly impossible to ever get life insurance in the future.

  I'm pretty certain that they are able to detect the nicotine in the blood sample they will draw from him, and so the "substitute the pee" plan might be all for naught.

  I would suggest rather that you get life insurance at the smoker rate (pick a lower policy face amount if needed to save money) and after a certain amount of time passes where he has not smoked (usually one year or more), ask the insurance company to rerate the policy as a non-smoker. If they refuse, then get another policy with another company (waiting of course to have the new policy in hand before canceling the existing one).

  * edited to change "husband" to "significant other"

  Edited by - Southland on 24 June 2002 21:58:34

  Edited by - Southland on 24 June 2002 22:1:38
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  Replacing Yasser Arafat?

  by Southland in

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  today "president bush urges palestinians to replace palestinian authority leader yasser arafat in a step toward creating a palestinian state.

  what are your thoughts on this?

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  I didn't hear the speech either. On MSNBC.COM, they posted the following:

  IN THE SPEECH, postponed from last week because of the wave of suicide attacks in Israel, President Bush said he expected Israel would respond as the Palestinians reached for these goals but clearly placed the onus on the Palestinians to change first.
  Today, the elected Palestinian legislature has no authority, and power is concentrated in the hands of a few, Bush said.
  True reform will require entirely new political and economic institutions, he said, vowing that the United States, the World Bank and the international community would help Palestinians organize and monitor elections and set up an accountable judiciary and an independent legislature.
  As NBCs David Gregory noted, the president made clear that Arafat had time and again disappointed him by failing to crush terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians.

  CNN made it clear the message was implied:

  WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush called on Palestinians Monday to replace Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat and other top officials because they are "encouraging, not opposing, terrorism."

  "The United States will not support the establishment of a Palestinian state until its leaders engage in a sustained fight against the terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure," Bush said.

  He did not mention Arafat by name, but said he was calling on the Palestinian people to "build a practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty."

  From the Rose Garden of the White House, Bush warned that a "Palestinian state will never be created by terror."

  Bush said the United States, the European Union and Arab states were willing to help the Palestinians improve their political and economic systems.

  The president also called on Israel to halt settlements, pull back to pre-September 28, 2000, positions and release frozen Palestinian revenues.
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  My experiences at the assmebly....

  by airwlk149 in

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  hi guys!!!!.

  as most of you all know, i was going to the district assembly in san francisco, with my parents.. well, i went, and it was interesting.... here it goes....... i left on thursday night.

  my friend pam came to pick me up.

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  Southland

  Ahhh ... Cow Palace ... memories ... I'm surprised they're still doing it there ... it's so far outside the city!