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  Stopping Thought Stopping.

  by Peeringin in

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  im sure that many on this forum will be aware of the thought-stopping techniques that are taught by jws/wts to suppress difficult thoughts and overcome cognitive dissonance in favour of reverting back to belief in wts.. often in conversation these will be clear verbal cues that can sound unnatural during the course of a conversation, as though an individual is temporarily reading a script to overcome a difficult point.. my question to you all is this:.

  are there any methods or resources that people are aware of that can help to break through a thought stopping mechanism when it is noticeably in effect?

  a question perhaps, or technique that will encourage the individual to think the thought through in its entirety?.

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  benny

  I am still a witness physically but I am finally waking up after 40 years.

  I think the best way to get through is to gain knowledge of their own printed material. "JW facts " have a wealth of material.
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  Another thing that woke me up

  by nowawake14 in

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  2. friends

  well, the typical person doesn't have to worry about field service and reporting time.

  so why should i have to?.

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  benny

  At the meeting yesterday watch tower conductor reckons hand in field service report because Jesus disciples reported back to him about what a great time they what they did. I doubt it was number of hours or return visits. The spirit led them just as the spirit supposed to direct the GB and the results speak for themselves.
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  Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.

  by benny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.

  i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.

  this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..

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  benny

  Good reminder about South Africa Zeb. Correct me if im wrong, they handed over the reports to prove the teenagers were practicing witnesses. I think some of the elder dads signed off on this even sending in false reports otherwise the kids would land up in normal prison with "Die gestravtes" in Afrikaans or criminals.

  If you could prove you were a bonified jw then you wore a blue overall and were kept separately with other jws. before the govt. changed policy and sentenced them to community service I think in the 90s.
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  Can someone help me with a question?

  by Angelgirlnr1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am not a jehovahs witness, but i have family members who are.

  and one of them is my cousin.

  we talk now and again, and i love him very much, both him and his wife, and also my aunt and uncle, his parents.

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  benny

  Look at the confession in the 1980 watchtower pp 17-18 pars 5-6. Choosing the best way of life. Google it or do yourself a favour and download the watchtower library from JW.org. Gives literature back decades.
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  What's Tony up to today?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  making a jw dot org tv presentation?

  making a liquor run for his cronies?

  in hiding?

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  benny

  He will give a talk on the dangers of using certain features on our mobile devices such as the camera.
  
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  kingdom halls

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this weeks meeting features a video about maintaining kingdom halls.

  it mentions a few times, how kh belong to jehovah, and are dedicated to him.. anybody ever wondered, if they belong to jehovah, how come, they are being sold all the time?

  can you give something to jehovah and then take it back?

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  I would like comments please on the lack of transparency regarding funds collected at circuit assemblies. A elder who I worked for said he doesn't go to the lunch time elders meeting as they aren't given full details either and just a waste of time.

  Do they have a budget that is set. I mean at last weekends one day assembly on "being bold " They were saying it will cost £6000 and so keep giving. Work that out if there are 2 assemblies a weekend. The assembly hall is their own.
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  Running Ahead of the Organization

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. friends

  that was a phrase that used to irritate me to no end.

  good thing this woman wasn't a jw.

  some people just can't wait.

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  benny

  I view them as a pack of "wolves" leading the "sheep". If any sheep runs ahead or points out a wrong path then they are bitten and killed [dfd] period.
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  Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.

  by benny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.

  i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.

  this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..

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  benny

  Thanks for the great comments. I am still in but mentally out. Trying to plan my exit. Its amazing how the blinkers come off when you do real research and start thinking for yourself. I want to help other family. My youngest daughter left when she was 16. I have her to confide in. I would appreciate some suggestions.

  I was at work in the 80s when staff were discussing among themselves the issue with alternate military service in South Africa where we lived. The brothers were sentenced to years of community service. They were disgusted and I felt guilty because I could not defend this stand.
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  Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.

  i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.

  while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.

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  One of the worst if not the worst.

  Covered up child abuse would be high on the agenda.
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  Another thing that woke me up

  by nowawake14 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, the typical person doesn't have to worry about field service and reporting time.

  so why should i have to?.

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  benny

  Well it has just been announced in the UK that they are no longer allowed to collect data in the ministry due to govt. legislation. Makes it harder to entice the unwary.

  On another thought, I always felt handing in a field service report is not scriptural. Can anyone think of Jesus and his disciples carrying a piece of scroll around and recording their hours so they would be worthy of extra privileges?