What sort of intelligence compells one to respond to a fellow, such as myself, reputed to be a plagiarist, no jaydub experience and a writer of nonsensical drivel? Is it low I.Q.on your part? Or a morbid fascination that I might have something? You still exhibit the vicious, narrow-minded and self-righteous ways you learned in the watchtower world. You're like a bunch of big whiney girls:-"I'll tell the elders and your ass will be grass", or "When Simon hears what you said he'll throw your sorry ass off this forum". Do any of you recall using this type of vernacular? Just how have you changed your jw ways? You're so busy straining out the gnats and gulping down the camel that it's difficult not only to think a little laterally, but impossible to see beyond the tip of your nose. You poor sorry creatures.
Posts by spaz
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53Secret WTS Social Agenda
by spaz inthis is a both a departure from the conventional paleo-hellenic concepts of logic to a primitive yet equally tenable principle of,'actions speaking louder than words', and a synopsis.. the wts is but one of many groups which are devoted to the disintergration of the traditional or biblical family structure, via nefarious means, as part of a greater plan that envisions a two-class new world order resembling feudalism.. .
the philosophic means to achieve this state is non-biblical.
the wts repudiates the christian principle of "loving your neighbour as yourself " by adopting an altruistic approach which demands to 'love your neighbour above yourself ".
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Men: What's your favorite cologne?
by ozziepost ini don't see why we should allow such blatant discrimination on the board as to allow a thread "for women" only, asking their favorite men's cologne.
so guys and blokes, so that we can participate, how's about declaring before these ladies your favorite cologne/after shave?
mine's tuscany.
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Drover's Cologne Recipe:Take a healthy measure of sweaty scrotum scraping, chisel off the skidmarks in your knickers, wipe the bumcrusties off your 'cheeks' and flannel your armpits vigorously. Squeeze the flannel juice into fresh urine, mix well and savour the unadulterated odour of Sewer #9.
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Secret WTS Social Agenda
by spaz inthis is a both a departure from the conventional paleo-hellenic concepts of logic to a primitive yet equally tenable principle of,'actions speaking louder than words', and a synopsis.. the wts is but one of many groups which are devoted to the disintergration of the traditional or biblical family structure, via nefarious means, as part of a greater plan that envisions a two-class new world order resembling feudalism.. .
the philosophic means to achieve this state is non-biblical.
the wts repudiates the christian principle of "loving your neighbour as yourself " by adopting an altruistic approach which demands to 'love your neighbour above yourself ".
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Some of you guys must be of the rank and file socialist/liberal persuasion, bumbling through life with rose-coloured glasses, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed eagerly absorbing all the garbage spewed out by the media propaganda machinery. How are you any different from when you were in the watchtower world? These were the naive class at the start of WWII who adamantly refused to believe that a human being could committ atrocities we know today as the holocaust. I suppose that you also believe that the recent Enron and World corporate collapses were random acts of chaos, accidents and not the result of an agenda framed in private.
I suppose you folk think the socialist/liberal feminists are out for equality and not female superiority? Think again! Read some of the esoteric literature of Brownmiller et.al. if you're in doubt. I suppose you think Freidan and Steinem weren't Marxist Jews pressing a socialist agenda? The evolutionary-trained scientists promote the socialist theories of chaos when everything in the universe reeks of design. Everything in nature and nearly everything man does is by design.
Likewise, nearly everything the WTS hegemony has done is by design for a clandestine agenda. You don't have to believe it; you can "do the ostrich" and put your head in the ground-- put on your rose-cloured glasses and go hopping around life blindly oblivious to the designs of others who have plans of pain for you. You prefer to be decieved? Is that because you've hopped right out of the fat in the watchtower world into the fire of the secular world? Why? Is it because you were conditoned not to think 'outside of the box'. What I'm telling you about the WTS sounds bizarre only because you can't move vertically, horizontally or laterally in your thinking. And that's okay by me too. The evidence, of course, exists and I recommend you ignore it.
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Secret WTS Social Agenda
by spaz inthis is a both a departure from the conventional paleo-hellenic concepts of logic to a primitive yet equally tenable principle of,'actions speaking louder than words', and a synopsis.. the wts is but one of many groups which are devoted to the disintergration of the traditional or biblical family structure, via nefarious means, as part of a greater plan that envisions a two-class new world order resembling feudalism.. .
the philosophic means to achieve this state is non-biblical.
the wts repudiates the christian principle of "loving your neighbour as yourself " by adopting an altruistic approach which demands to 'love your neighbour above yourself ".
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It seems as though some of you foul-mouths, bulldykes and momma's boys are incapable of lateral thinking. I don't know what a dopper is. I did write similarly on another thread.
The WTS corporate hegemony does not consist of a bunch of dildo brains as some of you would have others believe. They have an agenda and policies which they tightly follow. Nearly everything decided upon in the culture is by design for a specific result. Every second jw that I knew felt that there was something amiss in the culture.
I have yet to meet an xjw or jw that is humble enough to even consider the possibility that the culture just might be one of design and not accidental as though a bunch of dolts were running the show. The culture is particularly oppressive, orwellian. George Orwell's socialist world was one of design framed against Machiavellian principles: So too is the watchtower world. The bumbler/accidental theory is an inadequate explanation for that which is patently a culture reeking of design. Give me an alternative explanation for it.
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Illuminati?!
by lv4fer inmaybe someone already talked about this, i'm sorry i missed it.
do you think wt involved?
what proof?
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Hi iv4fer,
Your'e correct. The WTS corporate hegemony is not stupid, quite the opposite. The answer to your question is both yes and no. Let me explain. The corporate WTS is a minor player in the 'Illuminati' agenda. The means to achieve that agenda has to be by conspiracy. I have not been able to determine if the 13 families of the Talmudist Illuminated Ones identify themselves with Illuminati or Freemasonry any more. The corporate WTS appears to have been funded by The Brotherhood and are contracted for a social agenda. I have not found any direct membership of the corporate hegemony of the WTS with the 13 families of The Brotherhood. I think you have to seperate the religion from corporate interests to comprehend the fascist links of the WTS to The Brotherhood's greater plan for world domination. There are some xjws that claim to have uncovered the WTS's covert links to The Brotherhood(The Illuminated Ones; Talmudists).
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Secret WTS Social Agenda
by spaz inthis is a both a departure from the conventional paleo-hellenic concepts of logic to a primitive yet equally tenable principle of,'actions speaking louder than words', and a synopsis.. the wts is but one of many groups which are devoted to the disintergration of the traditional or biblical family structure, via nefarious means, as part of a greater plan that envisions a two-class new world order resembling feudalism.. .
the philosophic means to achieve this state is non-biblical.
the wts repudiates the christian principle of "loving your neighbour as yourself " by adopting an altruistic approach which demands to 'love your neighbour above yourself ".
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This is a both a departure from the conventional paleo-hellenic concepts of logic to a primitive yet equally tenable principle of,'actions speaking louder than words', and a synopsis.
The WTS is but one of many groups which are devoted to the disintergration of the traditional or biblical family structure, via nefarious means, as part of a greater plan that envisions a two-class new world order resembling feudalism.
The philosophic means to achieve this state is non-biblical. The WTS repudiates the Christian principle of "loving your neighbour AS yourself " by adopting an altruistic approach which demands to 'love your neighbour above yourself ". Selfishness is the opposite of altruism and says 'love yourself above your neighbour'. Individuals are thus led to consider themselves lesser, dirty and sinful, not worthy of another person's love and cannot love another "AS" he should himself..The starting point is altruism. A gender role-reversal policy then disturbs functional heterosexuality from where a host of problems ensue. Crowded around is the creation of an Orwellian, Big Brother, mind-conditioned culture. Take a moment to ask why the WTS's Culture Of Cruelty is riddled with distrust between members, money-grubbing congregants, high divorce rates, paedophillia, an expanding homosexual population, and children leaving the religion of their parents in droves.
The WTS considers itself a "mother" organization. In a process that might be called androgynization where the genders assume characteristics of the opposite sex, heterosexual turmoil proliferates. Like the (socialist) feminists the females perpetuate an enfeebled patriarchy(matriarchy is a myth). The WTS hegemony has taken upon itself to redefine the "image" in which God created man and women. Males are feminized; masculine characteristics such as the growing of facial hair is officially discouraged and the required shaved face resembles that of the female's. Females are masculinized. Short masculine hair replaces the feminine longer. In their homes women wear the garb of men. Women are the breadwinners while the males busy themselves primping and preening for meeting parts where egos compete. Women, busy out gossipping in the car groups, dictate to their men how to cook and clean in their homes. Males are the titular heads in their families and the females dominate: Some males, instructed to squat down to urinate, grudgingly comply. Congregationally, the males play out their machismo roles after their women have determined local policy.
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Dr. Nicolosi and homosexuality
by JWinSF ini was going to respond to isps topic on preventing homosexuality dr. j nicolosi, but due to its number of responses, decided to start a new topic.. nicolosi's comments were prominently referred to in the three 1995 awake!
articles about homosexuality in the "young people ask" section.
i had just come out recently and read the articles.
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Hi Guys,
First; I'm not gonna change my usage because someone else abhors a word. Also, while I'm aware of the Exodus incident I wasn't referencing that group. In this thread I both alluded to the difference in orientation and choice as I have in other threads including ISP's on the Friends forum of a few days ago.
To my knowledge, Nicolosi and Socarides are not directly involved with religious agendas, but one will often see them interviewed on religious programs perhaps giving the (mis)impression that they have a religious agenda. I think one of the motivating factors for an individual to divest himself of homosexual orientation and/or the homosexual behaviour and lifestyle is adopting a meaningful life which religion can satisfy. It seems that therapy failures are largely connected to an individual's meaningless existence. Statistically, the connection to positive results might be skewed by religious connection. I do know that secular individuals have divested themselves from the orientation to live very heterosexual identities without backsliding. It might have been in one of Charles Socarides books where I gleaned statistics.
You know, having extricated myself from the jw culture, I no longer have to judge people( And I think now, by having the advantage of hindsight, that I was just as narrow-minded, self-righteous and judgemental as the next jw).That of itself is relieving and refreshing for me. I am somewhat disinterested in how a person chooses to live his life. All of us, according to my reckoning, are responsible to God and it is He who judges. And it seems that we are merely responsible to help other people if it is in the power of our hand to do so and more so if we've been specifiaclly asked by another person.
Regards, Spaz
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facial hair and dubs
by not interested inthis morning as i was trimming my beard, i was thinking about when i was a drone and the times that iws counseled about my 5:00 shadow at the meetings, and i rembered a time when my dad was told to go and trim his sideburns b 4 he could go on stage at an assembly.. at one time it promted a friend of mine and i to write a letter to the society, since they could change thier minds on doctrinal issues as the light gets brighter we thought maybe we could get them to change thier minds on this issue, (yeah right).
a few months later he recived a letter from the society the essence of it was like this : it would not be inapproiate for a brother to wear a nice trim beard but the elders in the local area would have to detirmin if it would be acceptable for the brother to be used in the cong.
and go door to door, as some areas might be more open to it than others.
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Hi Zev,
Sounds like the bitch had a subliminal itch for a slap. It was selfish of you not to.
Perhaps another pertinent question should be,"Why do men shave the hair from their faces?"
The answer is probably, To look like a woman. The modern western woman(mother, wife, girlfriend) suffers a dichotomy: On one hand she is mostly afeared of masculinity and it's physical manifestations of facial hair, on the other she is sexually aroused by masculinity. Her fear of masculinity generally wins out and she it is that demands her man(son, husband, boyfriend) shave his frightening physicality. Because the modern male has been fairly well emasculated, he capitulates to her wishes. Subconsciously, she resents him so capitulating to her. Her dominating him over time eventually causes her much chagrine in the form of mental discontent, but she never understands the source of her unhappiness.
Regards, Spaz
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The Christ of the Bible VS. The Christ of the WTS.
by ServantofIAM injesus is lord.
for example, isaiah wrote about jehovah in isaiah 6:1-6, and john, in john 12:31-41 says isaiah saw jesus glory and spoke of him.
attributes of christ show that he is god.
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I'm even more cynical than neonmadman. The average jw will blindly assert something to be true when it is not. I remember watchtower artwork which depicted the jews of Jesus day holding their hands over their ears so as to not hear what Jesus was telling them. Thus illustrates the jw mindset.
Could you tell me to what definition of the trinity you subscribe,i.e. Baptist, Roman; and could you print it out so as to avoid any confusion in discussion?
Regards, Spaz
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Dr. Nicolosi and homosexuality
by JWinSF ini was going to respond to isps topic on preventing homosexuality dr. j nicolosi, but due to its number of responses, decided to start a new topic.. nicolosi's comments were prominently referred to in the three 1995 awake!
articles about homosexuality in the "young people ask" section.
i had just come out recently and read the articles.
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Hi Brian,
I once had stats names of groups etc. I'll have to do some research to get that--so be patient with me. However, as I'm writing, I do recall one group of rehabilitated, former homosexuals that was affiliated with The Family Research Council (Now I'm not sure of the precise name of the group)E.mail me if I lose track of this thread. Regards Spaz