wonderwoman77
enjoy it while it lasts!
SPAZ
well i have not posted this on here yet, but i went and met that girl and we had the best weekend.
it was so amazing.
everything felt right about it.
wonderwoman77
enjoy it while it lasts!
SPAZ
The last two years
there was pain
and rage
and fear and
apathy
and an innate
desire...demand
for the Right
the Ownership
of all that turbulence
its still there
and its still mine
and i am learning
i am becoming
acquainted
with myself.
I love you, self.
I love watching you learn.
First we'll crawl
then we'll walk
and perhaps
someday
we'll even run.
Perhaps even
before
we die.
SPAZ <------wrote & copyrighted June '02
As we drifted to sleep
and you said
hows this
and I said
Perfect.
written and copyrighted Feb 21, 2002 by SPAZ
Edited by - SPAZnik on 9 June 2002 20:7:26
solitude.. i remember desire.. (comfort in a fire).
now solitude.
is the only comfort i find.. i seek solitude.. .
solitude.
I remember desire.
(Comfort in a fire)
Now solitude
is the only comfort I find.
I seek solitude.
I relish her comfort
sweet solitude
she envelops me.
Soothing my weary soul.
Licking my wounds
gently
she kisses my heart better.
I've missed her
sweet solitude
So glad she found me
amidst the chaos
I hope we'll rendezvous
again
soon.
Why have i neglected
you so long
please forgive me
and thank you
for reminding me.
I realize now
that there were glimpses
of you
all along
in music
and song
in sleep
and dreams
Solitude
my very best friend
i've met noone
more soothing
than her
Nothing more loyal
than she
sweet
strengthening
solitude
SPAZ <-------written & copyrighted Feb21,2001 by
question: my friend who is df'd wishes to tell the elders that he won't be applying for re-instatement.
my friend only recently decided he doesn't want back in and isn't really "out" emotionally yet.
do elders really pay attention to df'd ones disappearing?
LOL @ Elsewhere...i like that.
to those that say that most jw's are windowwashers(due to no higher education), well you're wrong.
some are carpet cleaners, grease monkeys, pizza delivery boys, bread delivery boy, drivers, hair cutters, carwashers, toilet cleaners.... hey wait a minute... like the allmighty homer j. simpson said "dough!!
".
i love that being non-borg now leaves me many more career options though.
simply for the fact that i don't have to stick to work that makes it possible to attend all the meetings.
yay, i can pursue something i enjoy!! and i can even spend some time and money furthering my education for that purpose!!!
SPAZ
my main problem with organised religion is when totalitarianism comes into play.
thats when you get institutions like the catholic church in its earlier years.
that should never be allowed.. jerome
"Now you may continue to express your views on organised religion."
why thank you...heehee
"where do you seek spirituality"
I agree muchly with the comments that spirituality can be sought/found in many places.
For example, every so often I see or experience something that gets me thinking spiritually, about a Creator, Higher Power, the Universe, whatever...Like, in May we had a snowstorm in my city, and I was driving to work past this normally green, now snowcovered, field at about 5:30am...i looked off 2 my right and lo and behold, there was this DUCK, just a sittin' there, right smack in the middle of this snowy field. Just sittin' there, on a field of snow about 1/2 foot deep, watching the world go by, with what i'd swear was a smirk on his face. Like he was making the best of a bad situation. LOL. I couldn't help but laff. I couldn't help but think spiritually with appreciation for whoever is responsible for the existance of such a wonderfully hilarious DUCK.
And my cat. My cat is so amazingly cool. She totally knows when i'm blue, or 'lost', or just plain spazzy, 'bout somethin'. She curls up with me and just her touch and her purr....or when she does something goofy and makes me laff...i just can't help but be "moved" to the core of my "spirit".
Also what Gopher said about a little child...my little half-bro...interacting with him, and other friends...makes life a joy and that is a spiritual experience.
Spirituality (Spir`it*u*al"i*ty) (?) , n. ; pl. Spiritualities (#) . |
And another definition was "the self'. Some other definitions include the "church".
It doesn't bother me if other people wish to seek spirituality via an organized religion.
I'm at a point in my life though, where I'm leaning toward "the Self" part of this, sans the church.
Spirituality, to me, has more to do with living and learning, through experiences,
rather than from being dictated to by a religion, organized or not, "valid" or not.
It's more about being in touch with 'the Universe' as a bigger picture...from within,
a real balance of heart mind and soul...not so much strictly
the rationalizations, interpretations and judgements of OTHER men (read humans)
formed into a religion.
I really feel more spiritually nourished and satisfied, when I am simply LOVING LIFE...genuinely enjoying it....grateful for it. When humans try to take away my "god-given" freedom of choice,
I now know to fight that...tooth and nail...cuz that lack of freedom, being burdened down by a whole bunch of rules and regs and guilt and by the impossible task of striving for "perfection"
in my imperfect nature....that just kills my spirit altogether. If there is a god, i just can't believe or think he would really want me resenting life so much as all that. I am a better, happier, more productive person internally as well as to the rest of the world, when i am sans organized religion.
If this makes all the religionists (?) judge me, "on gods behalf", as evil and deserving of death, well, they are entitled to their opinion of god's judgement on me. i hope he doesn't judge them as harshly as they judge me.
As for the comment that JW are "not generally recognized as a valid religion"...
I guess I would need to hear what constitutes "valid" from your perspective
before I could comment much on that view. Seems like an entirely different thread
altogether. Your initial question didn't seem to ask about "most popular or recognized religion" nor did it provide any kind of stipulations around what qualifies as a valid religion. Since this site is mainly about the dubs and/or xdubs it only makes sense that many posters here would comment relative to their jdub experience. It was at some point part of their spiritual belief system.
You also mentioned "they (JW) are normally excluded from any discussion pertaining to Christianity in general". True, jdubs even exclude themselves as being part of "Christendom" in general.
And even feel their separateness from mainstream Christianity is part of what proves them 'separate from the world' and therefore approved by God. However they believe in and follow, in their own way (as do other "Christian" religions), Christ.
I'm not sure what else in your opinion constitutes a "valid" religion within "christianity", and/or if only "christianity" constitutes valid organized religion...there are other organized religion that aren't christian.
I can even seek spirituality in this forum...even though it is not a valid organized religion.
I can explore other people's thoughts and experiences on spirituality and if it gets me thinking
and aids me in my spiritual journey...great.
blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda
SPAZ
ps - here's a neat article on a website about various places/ways some people seek spirituality...
http://health.discovery.com/centers/althealth/spiritualheal/living.html
pps - still enjoying this thread btw! good topic, great discussion, neat comments!
from the days of russell the watchtower has sort to understand prophecy to in effect act as a prophet.
yet it has failed.
but wait, didn't pastor russell (and others) "prophesy" 1914?
LOL...interesting point.
SPAZ
I cheated. lol.
heehee good one Englishman.
you too Xander!
SPAZ
Was it a bar or a bat I saw?
Was it a bat I saw?
Was it a car or a cat I saw?
Was it a cat I saw?
Was it a rat I saw?
So many dynamos.
Solo gigolos.
Radar.
BOB
No miss, it is Simon.
Bird rib.
Dumb mud.
Lion oil.
No witness--a fool. A nasal aria's time emits air. Alas, an aloof assent: I won.
Reviled did I live, said I, as evil I did deliver.
God: Deified dog.
Goddam mad dog!
A nut for a jar of tuna.
I saw I was I.
Dammit, I'm mad!
No devil lived on.
Ana, nab a banana.
DNA-land.
Ah, Satan sees Natasha.
Desserts, I stressed!
Did I do, O God, did I as I said I'd do? Good, I did!
Murder for a jar of red rum.
Must sell at tallest sum.
Step on no pets.
SPAZYZAPS