Six--thats a very good argument for Karma....
From what I gathered you said that if we aren't good then we aren't happy. That is a simplistic view of karma. cause and effect.
from where I sit anyway.
we have all heard the cliche' "what goes around comes around" but do you really believe it?.
i know this person that for many years has been unkind, devious and vengeful and then over more recent years has had bad luck everywhere they turned around.
i mean one thing after another.
Six--thats a very good argument for Karma....
From what I gathered you said that if we aren't good then we aren't happy. That is a simplistic view of karma. cause and effect.
from where I sit anyway.
on another forum, a discussion has centered on the belief (or lack thereof) in the existence of god.
a believer, zechariah, i thought offered a pretty good argument as to why it makes sense to believe.
when asked the question where did god come from, zechariah said
Just wanted to say that this is a very thought provoking thread...thanks for the good read
we have all heard the cliche' "what goes around comes around" but do you really believe it?.
i know this person that for many years has been unkind, devious and vengeful and then over more recent years has had bad luck everywhere they turned around.
i mean one thing after another.
I have still been thinking about this......
and I have a question for those that don't believe in karma......
Since you don't belive in a cosmic justice then why bother being a nice and/or good person? If its not going to make any difference in the end then should we all do whatever we want as long as we dont get caught by the law of the land? Should we have moral chaos?
I think thats the only reason I still cannot discount the theory of karma. Thats why I still try to be the best person I can cause there has got to be some effect my actions will bring.
talking with a friend last night we got into bible god etc and he said something that made alot of sense.. he said "the baptists screw up though.
they go to third world countries to save those people.
but if its written that those who don't know god will be judged at armageddon and not automatically die, why do you need to save someone who doesnt know god?
Talking with a friend last night we got into bible god etc and he said something that made alot of sense.
He said "The Baptists screw up though. They go to third world countries to save those people. But if its written that those who don't know god will be judged at Armageddon and not automatically die, why do you need to save someone who doesnt know god? They are in no danger of being destroyed at armageddon are they. So in effect they are going out to save those that don't need to be saved."
I kept thinking about this and realized that JW's do this as well. They say that they must tell everyone about god because they want to save their lives. But if those that dont know god are innocent of that then why must they reach those people? There is also the scripture that the end wont come until all the people and nations know god. Isn't that a contradiction? Then why bother having the exception of those that dont know god.
If you can make heads or tails of this please let me know what you think. I havent stated it as eloquently as I would have liked and anyone who can put it in simpler tersm is appreciated.
Food for thought at least.
i was talking with my mom and great uncle the other night about this new diet/way of eating i am trying out.
what i am doing is based on sound nutritional advice from doctors and nutritionists.
it is even working as i have lost a few pounds and feel alot better than i have in a while.
I was talking with my mom and great uncle the other night about this new diet/way of eating I am trying out. What I am doing is based on sound nutritional advice from doctors and nutritionists. It is even working as I have lost a few pounds and feel alot better than I have in a while. But my great uncle (over-weight and in poor health) decided he needed to argue with me over the concepts of what I am doing. My mother wouldn't get too involced and said she had to do more research on what he was talking about (maybe there's hope for her yet).
It made me think that no matter what you are talking about if you are talking with dubs whether it be about remedies, weather, or money making opportunities they all seem to always be "right". You can't have a normal conversation with them about anything because it shortly turns into "I am right...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah......etc and so on"
i honestly want your answers to the following questions.
(i am trying to find out what jw's think on these things to determine what my parents may say in response if i ask them any of these)
question #1can individuals read & understand the bible alone, or do they need an organization and its publications to do so?
SOJ----
Have you forgotten about the question for you left unaswered or are you still researching?
Just hoping you haven't "given" up so quickly.
i was just reading something on a thread that tiggered this question.
have you even been involved in a converstation with a christian fanatic?
i have a few times and have been told a few times that i am going to go to hell because i don't believe in the bible and don't except god/jesus (at least their version) into my heart.. i know that having that fear as a basis for beliefs is a sign of cultish behavior.
I was just reading something on a thread that tiggered this question.
Have you even been involved in a converstation with a christian fanatic? I have a few times and have been told a few times that I am going to go to hell because I don't believe in the bible and don't except god/jesus (at least their version) into my heart.
I know that having that fear as a basis for beliefs is a sign of cultish behavior. If you don't do this then you will die at armageddon/go to hell etc and so on.
I don't want to lump all christians together because I know some religious people that are not like that. But the question is on my mind nonetheless.
Do christians have cult tendencies? If so how does the line between cult and non cult get crossed. what makes some cults and others not?
I'm interested in all points of views on this......especially the ones who are still practice christianity.
this is only the first few paragraphs of it, as a sort of a teaser .
<schnip>.
nobody realizes who russell truly is until they've spent a night in his company.
WOW!
I knew you had talent. You can tell who your influences are. I am looking forward to more and perhaps a novel to buy.
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i was thinking yesterday about women in the congregation not able to wear pants.
was there ever anything said in any article about this and what was their bible reasoning if so?.
I had a chance to ask my mother on this.
Scenario: She was dressed for work and asked me how she looked (can't believe it but she likes my opinion on fashion these days). She was wearing nice slacks, a white shirt and a vest over the shirt that matched the pants. She looked very professional and coul've walked into any busines meeting dressed as such. I told her she looked great and suggested that she wear it to the meetings since she looked so good. She said it wouldn't be appropiate. I asked why not and told her that she was more modest than most of the dresses. Her reply was she wouldn't be comfortable. She couldn't think of a reason except that. I made a joke about how that couldn't be less comfotable that sockings and heels. She laughed and then headed out to work.
Moral of the story: she has no idea why she doesn't wear pants except the fact that deep down she knows she will get in trouble and thats what makes her uncomfortable.
I wonder how many "sisters" are like that. maybe all of them
Anyway, Im working on her and have a feeling that it won't be long before I get her out. Wish me luck.
we have all heard the cliche' "what goes around comes around" but do you really believe it?.
i know this person that for many years has been unkind, devious and vengeful and then over more recent years has had bad luck everywhere they turned around.
i mean one thing after another.
Interesting thoughts everyone.
I think that the every action causes a reaction is for the most part true. If you think that all your decisions won't affect you or others that in itself is a way of shirking responsibility. The "karmic" law or whatever you want to call it is maybe perhaps our consciences' intuition. Its our own mind telling us that if we do something rotten there will be consequences but deep down in the subconscious. You could go even further to say that you cause your own tragedy by your deeds. I'm not saying that in particular is a theory I suscribe too but definately food for thought. (and before you flame me for all the horrible things done while a dub...Im including past lives in that theory)
Wow....didn't think I'd this much response but thanks.