Posts by SpiceItUp

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Would you be willing to admit it if you've been a hypocrite?

by onacruse in

for the last 20 years of my association with the jws, i was, more or less, a hypocrite.

they taught things i didn't believe, but i went to the meetings and, by my presence there and by my "non-answers" i in essence supported something that i didn't believe.. it's a hard thing to say "i was a hypocrite.".

i was.. craig

SpiceItUp

I've always said that my 2 biggest peeves are Blatant hypocrisy & liars. Being that I can't stand those traits I try myself to avoid being either.

I was raised a JW and as soon as I felt somethnig was wrong with the religion then I quit going. I didn't bother trying to appease my family by getting dunked or even just attending. My mother later thanked me for being true to myself.

I know that in the past there (I am sure) times that I have been hypocritical and/or lied but no longer. I have in fact lost friendships over my being "too" honest.

With all that being said I do sometimes find that I can be quite contradictory but for some reason its not quite the same as hypocrisy.

(*sigh* does making this post make me a hypocrite )

good read btw

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are JW's beliefs truly unique?

by gcc2k in

i'm sure someone has researched this, and if so perhaps you would save me some time.. a common jw reply when he/she is presented with problems that would seem to indicate that this cannot be "god's organization" is for him/her to say "but where else will i go?

who else has the truth?".

so, given a list of beliefs that are cornerstones of the "truth", what other religions share them?

SpiceItUp

Good thread...

I did a post about this same thing a while back.

Here's a link to get you started:

Just Like the rest of the world

Happy hunting and I'll be checking back to see what new ones you come up with.

Cheers,

Spice

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The Bible Code

by m0nk3y in

i was in a book store today and there were a couple of books entitled somthing like "the bible code" .

the idea goes that the bible is written a certain code that when decoded reveals prophcies about things like the twin towers and that kind of thing.

heres a few links to explain more.

SpiceItUp

This reminds me of the movie Pi in which the guys discovers the mathematical formula for the universe and is then chased by a few religious nuts etc. Something to do with the Torah or Koran or something. I could easily see the Bible in place of that.

I've always wondered if there was anything to it.

Interesting stuff even if it is just a bunch of garbled nonsense.

Just shows you that you can justify anything if you really want to.

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Pirates! Johnny Depp

by asleif_dufansdottir in

i really liked it (i don't ask a lot in a movie...escapist entertainment's what i'm after).

i thought johnny depp rocked as the rather swishy, funny pirate captain.

orlando bloom is turning into quite the attractive young man...after that last scene, i can see him in musketeer garb.. looking forward to the league of extraordinary gentlemen (love sean connery)...heard it's not great, but like i said, escapist entertainment).

SpiceItUp

I can't wait to see this movie....It looks great.

Waiting--- Johnny Depp was quite funny in "Benny & Joon". Thats one of my favorite flicks. For any of you Johnny fans its definately worth a watch. He was also pretty funny in "Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas" but thats a movie you definately have to want to see.

Thanks for the reviews everyone.

Cheers

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well this really sucks

by SpiceItUp in

jw
friends

you ever have one of those things that happen to you that just leaves you speechless.

well the other day one of my best friends (someone i have known for years) told me that they might have cancer.

they have a tumor in their leg that just changed size as well as a small lump in their arm.

SpiceItUp

Thanks again for all your thoughts and suggestions.

I guess I am trying to prepare myself for the worst but staying hopeful that it will never come to that.

It does help knowing that we have moved much more forward in treatments with cancer. I am glad there are so many survivor stories. I would like to give a (((hug))) to those that have lost someone.

asleif - I agree that words do not describe the tragedy that recently touched your life. I read it earlier, and the only thing I could think about, was telling the one I love how much he means to me because life can be ever so short.

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Growing up a gay Jehovah's Witness (My Life Story)

by m0nk3y in

i feel the need to express how i feel and felt about my life as a gay man.

i was brought up from birth as a jehovahs witness.

this has played a major part in my life and it has been a real struggle to get past.

SpiceItUp

(((m0nk3y)))

Wow....I was moved by your story. It is great that you have been able to become a stronger person in spite of difficult times. My hat is off to you.

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I am tired of thinking like a victim....

by Ravyn in

jw
friends

i may have to cut back on my forum reading.

this is getting discouraging.

everyone knows the problem, feels the problem, but very few want to act on the problem.

SpiceItUp

Ravyn---

Start thinking like a survivor. (afterall you are one)

I wish you the best on your new found journey.

May it be kind to you.

Spice

18

well this really sucks

by SpiceItUp in

jw
friends

you ever have one of those things that happen to you that just leaves you speechless.

well the other day one of my best friends (someone i have known for years) told me that they might have cancer.

they have a tumor in their leg that just changed size as well as a small lump in their arm.

SpiceItUp

Thanks for the thoughts everyone.

I have been spending more time with my friend in the past couple days since we initially spoke about this. Going out and doing things like we always do.

I hope that even if its cancer, that it can be operated on and let them get on with their life. Just keep them in your thoughts and hope that this is something that will pass on and leave us both stronger.

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I need your help

by SpiceItUp in

jw
friends

so the good news will start now...... some of you may remember that i stumped my mom http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/51940/1.ashx.

anyway here is the update.

i went on vacation but my mom to my knowledge did not pick up coc and read it.

SpiceItUp

well time for an update on this....

My father looked over some of the material I copied and checked out of the library. We got into a discussion last week over the dates. He told me that he sees how the WT got the 607 date (the "70 " years thing). However he is still going to do the research to find out why everyone else says the 586/7 date.

Since then I have bought "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" and have passed it to my parents to read. They scanned through it enough to discover that its an "apostate" book. However, they will still look into it.

It seems to be going very slow but I also can't expect them to just up and not believe everything they have believed for over 30 years.

The way I figure I have given them the information and its up to them what to do with it. I am keeping my fingers crossed and can only hope that the information will sink in.

Thanks for all your support and suggestions. I will post updates as they happen.

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well this really sucks

by SpiceItUp in

jw
friends

you ever have one of those things that happen to you that just leaves you speechless.

well the other day one of my best friends (someone i have known for years) told me that they might have cancer.

they have a tumor in their leg that just changed size as well as a small lump in their arm.

SpiceItUp

You ever have one of those things that happen to you that just leaves you speechless. Well the other day one of my best friends (someone I have known for years) told me that they might have cancer. They have a tumor in their leg that just changed size as well as a small lump in their arm. They will be making an appointment to have it properly diagnosed but the fact that it has grown and is in more than one place doesn't look like it might be good news.

I didnt know what to tell them I just gave them a hug and told them I'd be there in whatever way they needed me.

I have never dealt with anything such as this before and its scary knowing that someone my age could have to deal with this. I keep thinking that it shouldn't be like this. We should be talking about future goals not what to do if they need chemo therapy.

If anyone who has been there either could give me any advice on what to say/do (or not to say/do) it would be appreciated. I'd like to be strong for them but am just not quite sure how to.

Thanks for listening.