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  The Judicial Committee

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  have you ever been called before one?

  were you ever on one?

  what happened???

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  SwordOfJah

  I want to add that there is also a third appeal process if the accused does not agree with the decision taken by the appeals committee. The third process involves the branch. The accused can then write a letter stating his case and the reason for disagreement to the Branch. The decision is then turned over to them.

  Regarding the guidance of the holy spirit, you have to also add the human element. One example is Judas Iscariot. He was named with the guidance of the holy spirit to be an apostle. He was also guided as he ministered to Jesus, but he chose to not follow the guidance of the holy spirit when it came to treason. I will not sit here and say that mistakes are not made during judicial proceedings, but that is why there is three or four sitting on each judicial committee and why there is a an appeal process. This process might get mocked, but it works well in most decisions. I've been in judicial hearings were one of the elders wanted to disfellowship, and the other two reasoned with him that this would not be the right decision. They reasoned with their fellow elder by using the Bible and publications entitled "Determining weakness, wickedness, and repentance"
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  The Judicial Committee

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  have you ever been called before one?

  were you ever on one?

  what happened???

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  SwordOfJah

  Although elders are guided by holy spirit, this does not mean that they are inspired when making their decisions. They are using Biblical guidelines. But these guidelines can sometimes be ignored, therefore, ignoring the guidance of the holy spirit. This is why there is an appeal process offered by the F&DS. This is to safeguard the rights that the accused has if he/she thinks the decision is not appropiate. I have been part of an appeal committee that overturned a brother's disfellowshipping. Instead we counseled the original committee on how to handle similar cases in the future and to remember not to take cases personal as if the wrong was done to us. The brothers humbly accepted our counsel and decision.
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  Convicted Rapist Brother Thompson strikes AGAIN!

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.komotv.com/stories/32730.htm

  convicted rapist arrested again in u-district attack.

  august 24, 2004 .

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  SwordOfJah

  Don't be silly. High rate of mental illness? I would like to see a study of mental illness done to the members of this forum and then compare that with Witnesses. But if you can be serious for a second, it is sad that because this guy was a bible study, publisher, or whatever, that you guys start jumping up and down saying oohh, aaahh. There is a former violent gang member that is a baptized Witness in my congregation that have helped many former gang members change. His experience helps others and Jehovah is using him.
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  Do they expect everyone to have a MONEY TREE???

  by recoveringjw in

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  ooh!

  i am so mad, i don't even know if i am posting under the right subject!.

  my parents (still thick as thieves with the jw's--dad's an elder) were asked to move to myrtle point, or last year because their congregation was not doing so well and they needed some help.

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  SwordOfJah

  This does sound like a sad story from your perspective. But I wonder what your parents think about their move to where the need is greater. I doubt they think as you do as it seems they are devoted to the preaching work and doing Jehovah's will. Give your parents some credit for their spiritual decisions and feel proud of their sacrificing spirit. If you can help, go ahead and do it from the heart so they can continue their fine work.
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  Convicted Rapist Brother Thompson strikes AGAIN!

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.komotv.com/stories/32730.htm

  convicted rapist arrested again in u-district attack.

  august 24, 2004 .

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  SwordOfJah

  Is the "minister" at your door a convicted RAPIST?

  He could be. He could also be a former Alcoholic, Drug Addict, Fornicator, Smoker, Violent, Gang Member, Catholic, Protestant, Evangelical, Prostitute, Politician, Soldier. The point is that as the scriptures say, we must dress with our new Christian personality. Millions have been successful at changing thanks to Jehovah's Word. Some, of course, are not able to make the changes and put on their old personality.
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  Ask any JW this line of questioning.

  by apocalypse in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  if you have opportunity to enter a discussion with a jw (i am still active so for me it's not a problem) ask this line of questions.. q) are you going to go to the red cross to give blood?.

  a) they will answer speedily... no!

  (without hesitation).

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  SwordOfJah

  I WOULD ANSWER LIKE THIS:

  Q) Are you going to go to the Red Cross to give blood?

  A) They will answer speedily... NO! (without hesitation), Correct, I would answer NO.

  Q) Why do you feel that way?

  Because they cannot guarantee what they would do with my blood. Since I don't accept blood transfussions, my blood could be used for that purpose. If they could guarantee that it would not be used for that purpose, and only for extracting fractions to treat various infections, deceases, etc, then I would think about donating.

  Q) Are you personally willing to accept fractions of others blood?

  This is a personal decision of course. Because accepting fractions of blood main components is a conscience matter, does not automatically mean that every single Witness will accept fractions of blood. Some consciences might accept and others not, but it is a personal matter for each individual to decide.

  Disclaimer: I don't represent the entire 6 million Witnesses in my responses, but these are my thoughts.
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  UN Ban On Religion

  by laurelin in

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  does anyone here know anything about the supposed resolution that the un have about banning all religion?.

  i've done a google search but can't find anything and i'd be grateful for any help on this.. thanks.

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  SwordOfJah

  Hey Rocky, I was thinking about the pic in your profile. Using the way addresses are numbered in the USA, 667 would be the neighbour across the street of 666. The next-door neighbour would be 664 or 668. Glad I could be of service...
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  Rutherford was dismissed by Russell in 1915

  by VM44 in

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  rr wrote he gave rutherford 1500.00 and the judge went to los angelos where he set up a practice.

  russell knew he was trouble.. .

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/74973/1.ashx.

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  SwordOfJah

  If this is true, then why did Charles include Rutherford's name in his will? I smell bulls**t here...
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  "Those days will be cut short " - question

  by Sirona in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my jw friend (the only one who does keep in touch) is really considering "fading".. the trouble is that she was raised a jw and is finding it all really difficult, plus her father is a prominent jw.. she mentioned to me the scripture (matthew?

  ) that says that the last days would have to be cut short for the sake of the holy ones.

  she says they always taught that this referred to the anointed and that they'd all die off if jehovah didn't cut short the days of the time of the end.. she says that if they ever change thoughts on this doctrine she would immediately leave.

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  The scary thing for you will be when Jehovah DOES cut the last days short. But not all is bad news for Jehovah will forgive those that humble themselves....Isaiah 1:18.
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  I going to picket my parents convention this weekend!

  by Atilla in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, my parents have pissed me off so much with their denial and their refusal to even acknowledge my complaints against the borg.

  they pretend everything is perfect at the kingdom hall and expect me to play nice to their dub friends so as to protect their own reputation.

  this weekend in philadelphia, they are going to to their little convention and i have some evil thoughts.

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  SwordOfJah

  My question is, do you not have self-esteem? Why do you want to be seen as a crazy moron? When they see you standing there like a fool, holding a sign, every single Witness will think you have a couple of screws loose. Sadly, they might actually be right in there assessment. What a dishonor for your parents and yourself.