Posts by Saename

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i'm leaving this site forever

by stan livedeath in

as the title says--i'm out of here for good.. the site is full of atheists, communists, 7th day adventists, creationists, believers, deceivers, receivers, football supporters,.

dodgy types, cantleave---and assorted wankers.. so no place for me--because i'm none of the above so dont fit in.

so--this is goodbye forever my friends--its been almost average knowing you.

LifesNotOver - Part Four

by LifesNotOver in

jw
friends

so ... i don't know if any of this is even of interest any more, i know i'm getting kinda bored with it :) so many other more interesting stories out there.

anyway, limped my way through 17 years being a jw until now.

not a good jw mind you.

I know that feeling when you stop going to the meetings, don't do service anymore, and all that... And then when you do visit the Kingdom Hall, you just feel disgusted or whatever the feeling may be. You're just not interested. You just don't want to listen anymore. I've been there.

I will tell you one thing, though. And, of course, I don't know whether it is the right thing to say. I don't know what a 'good advice' would be in this case. But I think you should make it plain and simple that you no longer recognize yourself as a Jehovah's Witness. Tell your husband this. Make it clear. If he asks for reasons, you may tell him that it is not God's organisation and show him the Australia Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. Whatever you do, I think you should make it clear that you no longer recognize yourself as a Jehovah's Witness. But then again, I don't know your husband. You do.

Anyway, when it comes to leading a double life, it is hard. You may feel like a hypocrite. On the one hand, you continue to visit the Kingdom Hall, pray to God (with your husband), and read JW literature (such as the daily text.) On the other hand, you feel all of this is... well, to be blatantly obvious, bullsh*t. You no longer believe but are forced to believe.

When I was leading a double life such as this—going to the Kingdom Hall but no longer believing any of it—I didn't have any problem with this, so I can't really tell you how to deal with it. In my case, no one in my family was/is a JW, so nobody ever tried to 'encourage' me. But if you can't live a double life—and I imagine most people can't—I would advise you to stop leading a double life. Either be a JW or don't be. It really comes down to that. You have to made a decision and stick to it. Just tell your husband you no longer recognize yourself as one of Jehovah's Witnesses and be very, very firm about this.

From your previous posts, it seems that this is what you are afraid of. You showed signs of fear that your husband would find out. You were really afraid that he'd find out about this forum. And it seems that he now knows. So the question is, "What do you fear now?" Is it that he'd find out that you no longer have any faith in the organisation? Or is it something else?

What I can tell you is this: there is nothing to fear. Nothing. Once you make a firm decision, it's much easier.

Here's a rainbow from my friend SpongeBob SquarePants:

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What JWs are saying about 2016 RC on social media

by Sanchy in

jw
friends

since i'm only an "inactive", i still have plenty of jw friends on facebook and instagram.

here's a few samples of what they are posting regarding the remain loyal to jehovah conventions (note some of my friends are spanish speakers):.

what an amazing fulfilling day with these people .

Saename

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Pokemon GO Witnessing - Gotta Catch 'em All !

by Simon in

news just in .... as part of an effort to try and get youths enthusiastic about the kingdom ministry service, the watchtower is releasing it's own "pokemon go" style app which will allow anyone with a mobile phone to rush around the neighbourhood looking for an "interested person" who they can scan and collect.. they think the popularity may even spur pioneers to move faster than shuffling pace in some extreme cases.. when asked if this was just some kind of cheap gimmick designed to distract people from the fact that the religion never delivered on any of it's more important promises, a spokesman for the watchtower said "so?".

we asked whether it was a good idea to allow elders in the local hall to track the whereabouts of possibly unaccompanied minors and the spokesman replied "oh shiiiiiiit !!!

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Saename

Instead of Jigglypuff it'd be Jehogglyber.

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JWs Demonstrating against the Demonstrators

by Listener in

the organization never ceases to amaze.you've got to see this video for yourself so i won't say much about it.

i wonder if this practice has been endorsed and sanctioned by the governing body and if we will see more of it in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuxbx1ktci.

Saename

I would have to say that JWs handled the situation better than most religious people would. The elders were calm and just stood there to ensure that no violence resulted from this occurrence. Take a look at how those sorts of demonstrations go in public. Usually there's heated debate (shouting) and, at times, violence.

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JW Cart Witnessing = ONE BIG JOKE

by Black Man in

jw
friends

was talking to a good buddy of mine a couple days ago (we pioneered and were in bethel together and have both left the cult a few years ago), about the current cart and d. and the consensus was that it is now a complete joke.

was watching a couple witnesses last week sit at a table with their literature display.

no approaching people for conversation, no initiating stimulating dialogue with passerbys, as was encouraged when i "pioneered" back in the day.

Saename

I remember when I was still an unbaptized publisher going from door to door. I also remember when I found out about this whole cart witnessing thing and was told that each person has to be approved in order to 'participate'... I couldn't help but wonder, 'What the heck are the qualifications'?

Having that said, in my career as a publisher, I had a few opportunities to 'participate' in cart witnessing. I wasn't approved, but those opportunities were really outcomes of certain circumstances, such as when I was doing door-to-door preaching with somebody who had already planned cart witnessing afterwards but couldn't drive me back home. (I was younger at the time, without the driver's license.)

I think it happened around three times. It was the best type of preaching, precisely because I didn't have to talk to anyone. I was still inexperienced, yet I didn't have any problems with cart witnessing...

Those 'qualifications' are really a joke, I'd have to say.

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Great Tribulation alert?: Russia signs new restrictions that bans almost all forms of religious preaching outside recognized churches.

by redpilltwice in

this morning, my wife showed me this online article (written yesterday evening july 11, 2016) from dutch newspaper "trouw":.

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4716/christendom/article/detail/4337852/2016/07/11/rusland-verbiedt-thuiskerken-en-meeste-geloofsverkondiging.dhtml.

to me, this seems to be one serious step further, and together with the convention bunker video's it will surely fuel the persecution-syndrome and expectations of the great tribulation even more than it already did!

Saename

Couldn't decide which one.

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Stop Learning Stuff!

by AnonVet in

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Saename

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Stop Learning Stuff!

by AnonVet in

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Saename

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Great Tribulation alert?: Russia signs new restrictions that bans almost all forms of religious preaching outside recognized churches.

by redpilltwice in

this morning, my wife showed me this online article (written yesterday evening july 11, 2016) from dutch newspaper "trouw":.

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4716/christendom/article/detail/4337852/2016/07/11/rusland-verbiedt-thuiskerken-en-meeste-geloofsverkondiging.dhtml.

to me, this seems to be one serious step further, and together with the convention bunker video's it will surely fuel the persecution-syndrome and expectations of the great tribulation even more than it already did!

Saename

Vidiot - Wait... Isn't "Babylon the Great" supposed to be attacked first? Isn't the "King of the North" supposed to attack God's People last? WTF???

What did you expect? He was just resurrected this season. The King of the North will make mistakes, especially after being dead for a few days. He's still waking up. Give him some time; Jon will realize he's attacking the wrong religion.