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  Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"

  by Sanchy in

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  2. friends

  video is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".

  warning: your head might explode.

  especially past the 5:30 mark.

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  Saename

  Hell, they wouldn't want us to reason the New Testament historically...

  Gayle - Flodin refers to a copy received by apostate source, of a WT copy about Russell's writings as "truth," and not needing the Bible. He says it was a manipulated copy done by apostates.

  Do any of you have that reference that he says is a lie?

  He seems to be referencing September 15, 1910, Watchtower. It says,

  If the 6 volumes of 'Scripture Studies' are practically the Bible topically arranged, with Bible proof-texts given, we might not improperly name the volumes- 'The Bible' in an arranged form. That is to say, they are not merely comments on the Bible, but they are practically the Bible itself. . . . Furthermore, not only do we find that people cannot see the divine plan in studying the Bible itself, but we see also that if anyone lays the 'Scripture Studies' . . . after ha has read them for 10 years—if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes to the Bible alone . . . our experience shows that within 2 years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he has merely read the 'S.S.' with their references, and had not read a page of the Bible, as such, he would be in the light at the end of the two years.

  I found that quote pretty easily. I literally just googled "1910 Watchtower," and that was one of the first results. Here is the website I found that addresses this: 1910 Watchtower. I am not sure whether it is an accurate quote because there are ellipses in it, so I do not know what is missing from the quote. Neither do I know, however, how to access Watchtowers from that long ago. Nevertheless, I'm guessing that if you googled enough you would find a photocopy of the original magazine.
  
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  They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.

  "all of our publications are open to everyone.

  we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".

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  Poztate - It is not apostate in the least

  Yeah, I know. I meant it sarcastically. It's just that I forgot to put the word 'apostate' in quotation marks to imply a sarcastic, not literal, meaning of the word 'apostate.'
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  They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.

  "all of our publications are open to everyone.

  we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".

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  Saename

  Oh, pale.emperor, you too! You guys...!
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  They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.

  "all of our publications are open to everyone.

  we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".

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  Saename

  I'm way too smart for those tricks... I can see right through you... I know your nickname stands for 'apostate' and not just 'Poztate.' I ain't gonna trust no evil apostate!

  But seriously―thanks, OrphanCrow and [a]Po[s]tate. It'll be an enjoyable read.
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  Mark Sanderson wears an Apple Watch at regional convention

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.

  his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.

  one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).

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  Basically, what I'm trying to say is that if a 'normal' JW told the whole congregation that he or she is saving money for an Apple Watch, this JW would―and I have no doubt about that―have to meet with an elder or two to discuss his or her spirituality. Keep in mind one of the children's videos in which the Governing Body encouraged kids to donate instead of saving for ice creams―and we're talking about ice creams here...
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  Mark Sanderson wears an Apple Watch at regional convention

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.

  his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.

  one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).

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  fulano - Now they cant wear a 700$ watch?? Jesus.

  I think there was/were times when the Governing Body asked JWs to donate their own valuables, such as watches, necklaces, etc., which is why that could be considered a problem by some. Additionally, in many congregations, especially buying an Apple watch could be considered a sign of weak spirituality. I myself know JWs who would react in this way to seeing that somebody is saving money just to buy an Apple watch. Another problem is that Governing Body members live off donations as far as I know. There's no way telling what happens to that money―or even to the money that comes from sales of Kingdom Halls. On a further note, the Governing Body members always keep themselves occupied by telling JWs how imminent the end is. One could very well wonder, "Why does he have an Apple watch if the end is 'just around the corner'?"
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  Mark Sanderson wears an Apple Watch at regional convention

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last weekend was regional convention and mark sanderson was the bethel speaker for the last talks every day.

  his talks were video streamed from zurich to other cities in switzerland, austria and germany.

  one interesting point was that he wore an apple watch, stainless steel edition (link).

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  Saename

  Who is he? Though a Witness, I've never heard of him.
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  They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.

  "all of our publications are open to everyone.

  we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".

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  How can I gain access to this book? I assume that one has to download it from an apostate source since I don't think it's available on any of JW apps/programs. I believe it's time for me to read it. I've been wondering what sort of 'teachings' are included in this publication.
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  If you could speak to your former self, what would you say?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you, knowing ttatt, could go back in time and speak to your former jw self, what would you say to wake yourself up from the wt religion?.

  i would speak to my unbaptised publisher self.

  at that stage, i believed.

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  Saename

  Research child sexual abuse policies in the organisation. There.

  That had the most impact on me—if only had I learned earlier...
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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  Saename

  Well, I can forgive looter for this one... Maybe he wasn't allowed to use the computer at his house because of his parents listening to Watchtower™ guidelines on "using the Internet wisely." I wouldn't be surprised... He should be more knowledgeable about computers than cofty if he is 18 years old...