Posts by Saename

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ISIS Want to Clear up Why They Do Terrorism

by cofty in

every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".

noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.

apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.

Saename

cofty - He replied that the world would now return to the age-old conflict between Islam and the West. I wondered what the hell he was talking about.
I wish I could remember who he was.

Yup. He wrote a whole book about it—although it may have been a different person. Maybe I'll be able to find the name.

cofty - What would a Jainist extremist look like?

Maybe a person who literally wouldn't hurt a single fly? Note that I'm not talking about extremism necessarily characterised by violence but rather extreme interpretation of an ideology.

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ISIS Want to Clear up Why They Do Terrorism

by cofty in

every time isis commit one of their atrocities, well-meaning folks mumble self-loathing apologies on behalf of "the west".

noam chomsky and his sort lead a chorus of masochistic confessions.

apparently everybody is to blame for islamic terrorism (according to bill nye global warming causes isis) - apart from islamic terrorists of course.

Saename

cofty - Sooner or later, in some form, with the same objectives and tactics - yes.

I would have to agree. It wouldn't exist in the same form as ISIS does today; nonetheless, Qu'ran encourages—not only allows—such possibility of holy war, and I strongly believe that sooner or later some fundamentalist followers would create an organisation similar to a degree.

Obviously, I am not saying that all or even most Muslims would embrace violence against non-Muslims. I am pointing out the fact that within every single religion there are fundamentalists who go to extremes, even if they are a minority.

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How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

by dogon in

i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

Saename

James Mixon - "James, remember back in 1975 when you told me I will be BBQ in 1975".

"I will be BBQ"... Ha...!

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There is a new letter to elders about Child Abuse

by ttdtt in

anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.

Saename

Lloyd Evans published a video on his Youtube channel John Cedars which discusses the letter in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58G6U_tb7E

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I conclude evolution is guided

by KateWild in

your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

Saename

Can't believe this thread was started three weeks ago. Time flies like an arrow and shoots you when you least expect it.

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How to argue with a JW who says the org never said the end in 75

by dogon in

i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.

Saename

I was looking through the quotes about 1975, and I found something interesting...

This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end (Watchtower, August 15, 1968) [emphasis added].

I remember when I started studying with Jehovah's Witnesses around the year 2006... Back then they were also talking about the end all the time. Everyone was saying to me, just a little kid back then, that this world would end within a few years. You would think that they learned something from the 1975 fiasco; but, no, they still continue to "prophesy" that the end of this world is just around the corner. They still do the same thing―with only one exception; now they don't give any concrete dates.

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

Am I the only one here who realises that the gospels are not historically reliable...?

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

quincemyles - First century Greek and Hebrew Historians wrote that he rose up appearing to more than 500 humans.

Are you talking about the gospels?

Witness My Fury - What about the zombies in jerusalem where they real too?

Haha! I know what you did here... That's a reference to the movie World War Z!!!!!

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

As I previously said, quincemyles is some crackpot who has no idea what s/he is talking about. It's been proven just now. (I mean... Jesus levitating into the sky is not fiction...?)

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

never a jw - Quite likely developed during the Persian or Greek periods

In 330 BCE, Alexander the Great conquered Persia. Then, it was really like domino. The evolution of the concept of ha'satan into the concept of Satan continued until the Maccabean revolt. The evolution of the apocalyptic view played a big role.