Posts by Saename

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Plastic Surgery

by raven in

hi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!

anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!

) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?

Saename

Bonsai - My wife used to get counseled a lot in the KH and get summoned into the back room on account of her dresses being hot pink or orange or any other loud color that she preferred ( that's a big no no for Japanese JWs).

Is there something in the Japanese culture about the significance (or whatever else) of such colours? If so, would it be the culture of the elderly people or the culture of the young people? Or is it something that the Japanese Jehovah's Witnesses completely made up on their own, presumably while on drugs?

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Paranormal Warning

by Cold Steel in

i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

Saename

Luo bou to - giles grey I had the same problem with gremlins and odd socks Try ordering them to stop it in the name of jehovah while hitting the washing machine with a watchtower 3 times

Holy hell! It worked! Gonna donate now!!

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Is Pokemon Demonic?

by Saename in

[spoiler: pokemon is an invitation to communication with or possession by demons because... well... pokemon comes from demons.

so... i was looking through different questions on quora, and i noticed one that read, "is pokemon demonic?

" i was interested in seeing what people have to say, especially that not so long ago there was a thread (or a post in a thread?

Saename

Crabby - No, it's a money making scam as once you get to a certain level you have to pay.

I've never played Pokemon GO (I assume you're referring to Pokemon GO), so I wouldn't know about that. But I'm not surprised. Thanks for letting me know either way.

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Is Pokemon Demonic?

by Saename in

[spoiler: pokemon is an invitation to communication with or possession by demons because... well... pokemon comes from demons.

so... i was looking through different questions on quora, and i noticed one that read, "is pokemon demonic?

" i was interested in seeing what people have to say, especially that not so long ago there was a thread (or a post in a thread?

Saename

[Spoiler: Pokemon is an invitation to communication with or possession by demons because... well... Pokemon comes from demons. We all know that, right?]

So... I was looking through different questions on Quora, and I noticed one that read, "Is Pokemon demonic?" I was interested in seeing what people have to say, especially that not so long ago there was a thread (or a post in a thread?) that talked about Jehovah's Witnesses and Pokemon. Do Jehovah's Witnesses condemn Pokemon? What do they think of it?

Up until now I heard nothing but silence...

So... well... in this question, I saw a very interesting answer (okay, maybe not necessarily interesting...). The style of writing seemed to be Jehovah's Witness-like, and when I checked the user's other answers, sure enough, it turned out the guy is a Jehovah's Witness.

Please enjoy what this Jehovah's Witness had to say about whether Pokemon is demonic (and please do look at the comments!): Is Pokemon Demonic? Jehovah's Witness Answers Your Concerns!

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

OrphanCrow - So your definition of "serious scholar" is simply measured by whether or not his position supports yours

No, I did not say that. I've had to change my positions a number of times in the past. In the case of historicity of Jesus, I don't take Carrier seriously because of the footwork he does to get to his conclusions—for instance when he argued that Paul believed that Jesus was always a celestial figure, that he never walked on earth. To claim this position, he has to convince people how Galatians doesn't say what it says. I suspect his judgement in this case is clouded by his anti-theist stance.

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

Yes, I'm aware of his credentials.

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

cofty - So why did you claim there are no serious scholars who reject the historicity of Jesus?

Because I never considered him a serious scholar. His arguments were never convincing, and I do believe he does a lot of "footwork" to get to his conclusions. But as I said, I will revisit his arguments and try to take him more seriously.

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

For all it's worth, I did know of Carrier's work. But I do see your point. Would I be able to respond to his book? No. I admit I am no expert. I only read works of experts to form my own opinions. I will reconsider my stance against Carrier.

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

cofty, I said that there is not a single scholar employed at a university or college. To my knowledge, Carrier is not employed at either university or college. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

Saename

cofty - The Christ Myth theory is a minority position among scholars but it is not absent. The most recent contribution to the field is Dr Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason to Doubt".
Perhaps you should read it for an appreciation of both sides of the debate.

I know about both sides. I happen to heartily disagree with Carrier.

punkofnice - Looks like you have an overbloated view of yourself.

Possibly. I admit that I am arrogant.

punkofnice - No, I won't go away tail between my legs and then come back begging for forgiveness from you because you look down your nose at people.

Okay. I don't look down at people. I look down at certain people.