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  Husband Turns Up With Circuit Overseer And Wife!

  by disillusioned 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my husband said he would be gone for the day.

  the circuit overseer is at their cong and he trying to get brownie points.

  i was just chilling watching tv with a cuppa, when i heard a car outside.

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  Why are you nervous?
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  Daily Legal News: 9th District partially reverses Jehovah’s Witnesses molestation suit - (Zalkin case. Decision mostly in Plaintiff's favor)

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  9th district partially reverses jehovah’s witnesses molestation suit.

  tracey blairlegal news reporter published: september 20, 2016. a lorain county trial court erred when it ordered the west congregation of jehovah’s witnesses to produce certain documents for discovery in a child molestation case.. however, the trial court was correct in concluding the majority of documents that were compelled are not protected from disclosure via the clergy-penitent privilege or the first amendment, according to a recent decision by the 9th district court of appeals.. former west congregation member elizabeth mcfarland sued the lorain-based church in 2013 for negligence, ratification and fraud by omission/concealment.. according to case summary, mcfarland was a member of west congregation from 1997 to 2001, when she was 10 to 14 years old.

  mcfarland’s parents told church elders that scott silvasy, a fellow member, had molested their daughter for several years.. silvasy died in 2003. mcfarland claimed elders never disciplined him or reported the issue to their superiors, and discouraged her parents from doing so.. in her suit, mcfarland said church elders were aware silvasy had previously molested a minor and was a danger to her.

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  As expected, they're still not cooperating. They're still filling appeals...
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  This week's WT study article "Keep on the Watch" - the latest dumb article from the Gang That Couldn't Think Straight

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok so this week's wt study article is entitled "why must we keep on the watch?"..

  it is filled with statements on the importance of "being watchful" for the beginning of the "great tribulation".

  paragraph 2: “keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.”after that, jesus admonished them repeatedly: “keep on the watch.”.

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  Saename

  neverendingjourney - The thing that bothers me the most concerning this topic is the following:

  1. The last days commenced in 1914
     
  2. Armageddon didn't come immediately because people had to be warned and given a chance to get good with God before God destroyed the wicked
  3. 102 years have elapsed since Jesus' enthronement

  What's the point in having a 102 year warning period? All the people who were reached by the Bible Students during the 1910s are now dead. That's especially true for the people who read the Watchtower back in the 1880s.

  It seems to me that on its face the reasoning behind the 102 year gap logically falls apart. There is no reason for having a century long warning period.

  Couldn't God found a way to warn mankind, say in 10-15 years? Wasn't the early preaching work a waste of time given the fact that those people died before Armageddon. Isn't that like warning your next door neighbors that their house will burn down 100 years from now? Who cares?

  Interesting. Never thought of that.
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  Peruvian JWs lose custody of 2-year old son

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the peruvian government intervened on behalf of this child whose ignorant jw parents left his life in jay hoover's hands.... http://eltiempo.pe/?p=139873.

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  Saename

  Thanks for providing the translation. I'm amazed at Janet's reasoning: “I have hope that, if my son should die, I will see him again in paradise because the Bible says so and Jehovah is God and not a human who would lie" [emphasis added].

  It's good the government intervened. As alanv mentioned, this two-year-old child has no say in this regard; not giving him life-saving blood transfusion is like baptising infants who have no idea what is happening, which, rather ironically, Jehovah's Witnesses are opposed against. This child would have died without having a say because of his age.

  I am not even going to add to that the parents' willful ignorance in regards to anemia. Anemia is one of those diseases which pretty much require blood transfusions.
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  the book so many deny exists

  by zeb in

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  PHOTOSHOP !!! PHOTOSHOP !!! YOU'RE LYING !!!
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  Judgment Message Training Video Has Been Leaked!

  by OneGenTwoGroups in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6dur7ol_8w.

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  I remember watching that the minute this thread was created. Still hilarious... Yeah...
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  I've been in love with a Jehovah Witness without knowing it for a long time, he hid it from everyone.

  by sakurafeathers in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hello :) so i know this guy for almost 6 years, i met him when i was 15 and i felt in love.

  now i’m 21 and he is 22. we were in the same class and got along very well and he seemed to like me too.

  when i confessed, face to face he haven't admitted and he haven't denied it and he acted like he liked me too but couldn't be with me because reasons bigger than him, but i was too young to understand and he was young to handle the pressure he had.

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  Saename

  Unless he stops attending the meetings and fades (I hope you know the term), do not bother starting a relationship with him. Everything LisaRose wrote in her post is true. I have to confirm that a life with a Jehovah's Witness is incredibly hard. Does it work out for some people? Well, yes, it does; I've seen that myself. However, it's extremely rare. In most cases, the couple ends up separating and divorcing.

  Consider LisaRose's questions seriously. What will you do if and when you have children? Other Jehovah's Witnesses will pressure him and subsequently "force" him to teach your kids "the truth." He will be pressured to take your kids to the Kingdom Hall, where they will be taught that blood transfusions and holidays, such as Christmas and Halloween, are bad and forbidden. They will be taught that you, as an unbeliever, are controlled by Satan. That stuff can break your heart. And even if you won't have children, as LisaRose pointed out, you will have to celebrate holidays on your own, without him. When you'll start living together and decide to invite his friends (Jehovah's Witnesses) to your place for a meal, any conversations will be centered around their beliefs. Your guy may not try to convert you, but his friends would certainly attempt to do that. That would be an incredibly hard life.

  Unless he fades and leaves this religion, do not bother. I repeat; do NOT try to have a relationship with him. Don't take my words as a harsh commandment, though. Take it as a friendly advice from the community of ex-Jehovah's Witnesses who have years of experience with the cult. It almost never works out in real life.
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  New Publication (2014) "God Kingdom Rules" -- When Is It Studied At The Kingdom Hall?

  by Littleleslie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just wanted to know, when do the jws begin to study the 2014 publication called: "god's kingdom rule" at the local kingdom halls?

  (i heard it was going to be sometime in the month of september of 2016, this month.).

  ll.

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  How do I access this letter coded kr? And this ch. 1 par. 1–10 is from this letter or from where? I kind of want to see how they explain the generation teaching...
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  Generation expiry date?

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

  the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

  those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

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  Saename

  ttdtt, according to Jehovah's Witness theology as I learned it in my region, the millennial reign will start after Armageddon when God's Kingdom is established on earth and not in heaven only (not that it will ever happen...) So, no, Jesus won't have less than 900 years―according to Jehovah's Witnesses anyway, as I am atheist.
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  People hate God?

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating god, who created everything.

  like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in him because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate him is forcing it a bit.

  i'm very thankful that those such as myself have the courage to believe in the lord.

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  Saename

  I couldn't help but notice the factual errors that you included in your opening post, looter, so I took the liberty of correcting you.

  It is a pain that certain individuals pride themselves on hating the invisible pink unicorn, who created everything. Like it's understandable that you choose to not believe in his invisible pinkness because of your selfishness or thinking skills but to hate the invisible pink unicorn is forcing it a bit. I'm very thankful that those such as myself have the pinkful courage to believe in the invisible pink unicorn. I mean, many hospitals, poverty, and relief organisations have been founded in its name and if people failed to have faith then would we have those aids today? Yes. But still, without the invisible pink unicorn, the world would be in even more chaos. Most unbelievers sure put a lot of effort into something that they think doesn't exist. But it all makes sense that they hate the invisible pink unicorn, not necessarily disbelieve. (I am not going to delve into the reasons why most unbelievers hate—not disbelieve—the invisible pink unicorn and how that makes sense because I have no idea how to back up my claim. But it is the truth.)

  It also makes sense that some unbelievers, such as Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Christians, and even atheists, are in a state of pinkious rebellion so perplexing that it strains their common understanding of faith to its breaking point. So there. They are really rebels deep inside and don't want to admit it so they constantly make up stories of how the invisible pink unicorn is false and not real, even though they are only hurting themselves. For instance, some state that nothing can be both invisible and pink simultaneously. An object, or an entity, can only be either invisible or pink, but never both. However, they fail to understand the fact that the invisible pink unicorn is almighty, and therefore everything is possible for this beautiful entity. But you all are probably thinking, why do I care so much about such people? I like to think of some on this forum as intelligent people who reject God from a sense of moral despair because of the amount of injustice and suffering that they witness in the world. (I am not going to delve into the reasons why I care so much about the disbelievers because I want to finish this paragraph without actually finishing it, just like I did the same with the previous paragraph.)

  At the same time, you all are kind of defeating yourselves because you'll never try to voice your true opinion about the invisible pink unicorn, instead you continue to proclaim it doesn't exist which is obviously and evidently impossible. Why? Because if it didn't exist, you wouldn't hate him so much. (I am not going to delve into the reasons how that makes sense because it has become my pattern not to explain my claims.) And if you actually said to everyone that you hated the invisible pink unicorn, you'd face prison, fines, and maybe even death. (I am not going to delve into the reasons why that's true because it's what I evidently do [or don't do.]) Now it's not only atheists who hate the invisible pink unicorn; there are other types of people who hate them, but the same applies to them as well. (I am not going to delve into the reasons why that's true; in fact, I am not going to even provide a single example to at least try to back up my claim. This is because it has become the pattern of my opening post.)

  There. Fixed.