I don't quite understand (because of my lack of knowledge on the subject) options 2 and 3. What was the approach the Governing Body took in Mexico and Malawi? I would appreciate if someone could fill me in on the matter.
Thanks in advance.
Saename
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Chinese Communist Party to commence nationwide crackdown on Christianity including Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks in8 october 2016. china's governing communist party is set to launch a nationwide crackdown on the christian church.. by matthew carney - abc.
the communist party has just enacted much tougher laws that criminalise christians if they do not pledge loyalty to the state.. chinese president xi jinping has warned that all religions now have to become "chinese" and the new laws will attempt to bring churchgoers and their leaders under party control.. the new laws will put the state firmly in charge, giving the communist party the ability to hire and fire church leaders and change religious doctrine to make it more chinese.... that means churchgoers will have to pledge loyalty to the communist party first.. there is good reason to be afraid.
chinese authorities have already started the crackdown in the christian heartland in the southern province of zhejiang.. it's been extensive and brutal.
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Disfellowhsipped for 7 years...
by HereIgo ini remember around 2009, there was a scandal going on involving 2 families in my cong where the husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family.
this resulted in pregnancy and subsequent disfellowshipping.
what was interesting to me though was a comment made by a co from the platform.
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Saename
I guess it was somebody who really hates cheating. Bad experience from his past maybe?
But when you think about 7 years of being disfellowshipped... That's quite a lot. Don't get me wrong; I hate cheating myself as I highly value loyalty, but having no contact with family and friends for 7 years? That's a lot.
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Hello - New Member
by NotAnointed ini just wanted to intoroduce myself.
i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.
my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.
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Saename
redvip2000 - Yes you could say that escaping from that cult, has made us be very cautious about believing in things for which there is no evidence.
Perfect way of putting it. My experience with Jehovah's Witnesses has taught me to go where the evidence leads me.
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Hello - New Member
by NotAnointed ini just wanted to intoroduce myself.
i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.
my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.
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Saename
Hello there. Glad to have a new member here. By the way, it's kind of weird to see you refer to Jehovah's Witnesses as "the truth" since you have never been a Jehovah's Witness yourself. Sort of interesting. Maybe became a habit because of your wife?
When it comes to atheism... You'll be surprised to see that many of the atheists on this forum don't believe in god anymore because some of them have considered all evidence for and against god, including history of Christianity, which was triggered by their urge to first learn about their own faith. From there, it usually spreads to learning about mainstream Christianity as well, sometimes even other religions.
I personally first started learning about my own religion (which now I usually call a cult), and then I began to study the history of Christianity from its very beginning. The reason why I don't believe in god anymore isn't because of Jehovah's Witnesses. It's because of what I learned about Jesus and the first Christians from the historical point of view and how it agrees or disagrees with the Bible.
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CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting
by StarTrekAngel inso that was a "shocker".
i was not able to attend the meeting.
i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.
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Saename
Thought it was obvious. It's always been this way that some people prefer to come to the meetings only on special days.
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Feeling very lonely
by BlackWolf inthe past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.
the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.
every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.
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It's not really the stress of JW life. It's just being human. We tend to focus on the worst parts of our lives, though rather subconsciously—until one day we decide to focus on the better moments.
If you still need some friends, though, we're still here for you. Rebelfighter lives in Florida as well, so all you need is just ask to meet her. You also have my Skype and Facebook, just in case you ever want to talk to somebody your age. I assume it probably feels uncomfortable for you right now when so many people responded to your topic about feeling lonely. But don't ignore your first instincts that convinced you to create this topic.
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Convention Weirdness
by BlackWolf inwell i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?
im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.
has that ever happened before?
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pale.emperor - I live on the 4th floor in an apartment block, im screwed. Where am i gonna hide?
In some kind of container made of iron. For some reason, Jehovah seems to be scared of iron.
Judges 1.19: "The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron" (NIV).
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This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .
by Miss Worldly inok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.
sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.
from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.
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Ding - Jesus didn't distinguish between "anointed" and "other sheep" in his remarks.
You're of course right. But Jehovah's Witnesses disagree for some reason, and this question, I assume, is strictly about the Jehovah's Witness theology. According to them, this scripture is either about the anointed or the other sheep (for some reason.)
But if there's no marriage (romantic relationships?) in the paradise, then I don't know who would want to be there...
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Feeling very lonely
by BlackWolf inthe past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.
the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.
every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.
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Saename
I know your feeling when you stand by the wall in the Kingdom Hall. I've been there before I left. I was feeling alone. However, the problem wasn't that other people weren't interested in associating with me; it's just that I didn't take the initiative to talk to them.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend making friends with Jehovah's Witnesses. You're planning to fade, so they will shun you (even though you're not baptised.) You can go out and meet some non-JW people. As Simon mentioned, it's tough, but it is like a muscle.
Also, in your first post you mentioned you were 15, which would make you around 16 now. I'm not exactly your age, but I'm still young—only 18. I just finished high school in June. If you need a friend in your age range, I'm here. I'll send you a PM with my contact information.
By the way, your dad can't track your Internet history by using the router. That's not what routers are for at all. He could track you by installing a program on your computer, which in turn would save your Internet history. However, considering the fact he was threatening your brothers with the router, I'm guessing he doesn't know anything about tracking. I bet he has no idea how to install a tracking program on your computer, so I'd say you're completely safe.
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This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .
by Miss Worldly inok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.
sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.
from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.
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According to JW teaching, death is the end of marriage. If one spouse dies, their marriage is "legally" ended. If, say, the wife remarried and survived into the paradise with her new husband, they would have to remain married unless death or adultery occurs. The resurrected spouse would not have the "right" to be with her, so technically, yes, he would have to pretend to be happy with this.
Right now, there is an ongoing debate among Jehovah's Witnesses whether resurrected people would be able to marry, or remarry, in the paradise. As FreeGirl2006 said, it is possible the resurrected spouse would not be able to marry. However, the contrary is also possible as Jehovah's Witnesses have not yet decided. They are not yet sure as to what one verse, I believe from Matthew, means. In this verse, Jesus speaks of the earthly paradise, heaven, and marriage. Therefore, they don't know whether the rule against being married after Armageddon is in regards to the earthly paradise or heaven.
I had this exactly same conversation with the elders from my area some time ago. All I said above is true for the Jehovah's Witnesses in my city. I'm not sure whether they would have other interpretations in other countries. I live in ON, Canada.