Posts by Saename

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Was There ANYTHING Positive That You Experienced Because of Being a JW?

by minimus in

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was there anything positive about your jehovah's witness experience?.

Saename

One of the Jehovah's Witnesses I knew in one of the congregations I attended invited me over to dinner every Saturday after service. It was a nice "tradition." He (let's call him Matt) said he thought of me as his younger brother. Even though he was 20–30 years older, we were quite close. It was probably because of our similar personalities. We both enjoyed learning, and we both had the same type of humor (everyone else, except for one other Jehovah's Witness (let's call him Ben) who was around 50 years older and who also was one of my closest friends―probably the closest despite the age difference―thought we were crazy.) Matt and I laughed all the time. And Ben? Hell, he acted like a 10-year-old (in a good way―he played jokes on everyone but never crossed the line) even though he was almost 70... If I ever loved any one of my friends, it was these two.

Needless to say, we don't talk anymore.

Walking Dead T-Shirt Deemed Racist!

by Saename in

recently i watched the newest episode from the philip defranco (reason be upon him) show, and philip mentioned the most recent controversy that surrounds the walking dead.

after primark, a clothing retailer in the uk and ireland, started selling certain the walking dead t-shirts, some customers complained that they are racist because of their slogan: "eeny, meeny, miny, moe.

" according to these customers, this counting rhyme (eeny, meeny, miny, moe, catch a tiger by the toe.

Saename

Recently I watched the newest episode from The Philip DeFranco (reason be upon him) Show, and Philip mentioned the most recent controversy that surrounds The Walking Dead. After Primark, a clothing retailer in the UK and Ireland, started selling certain The Walking Dead T-shirts, some customers complained that they are racist because of their slogan: "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe." According to these customers, this counting rhyme (Eeny, meeny, miny, moe, catch a tiger by the toe. If he hollers let him go [...]) originally included the N-word instead of the word "tiger," and hence these t-shirts should be considered offensive.

As Bill Maher put it, we live in a "pussy nation."

Here's Philip DeFranco's episode which covers the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnmjXFuqkSY

And here's one of the articles written about that: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/02/23/walking-dead-t-shirt-racist_n_14961668.html

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Anyone read the latest Awake (on the supernatural)?

by LoveUniHateExams in

just read some of this latest awake on the org's webshite.. it begins by talking about the 'supernatural' - wizards, witches, vampires, etc.

- their popularity and why they might appeal to people.

then it goes on to state the wt belief that someone is 'behind it'.. now, i like a few horror/scary films - when i was a kid, i always actually liked being a bit scared by them, tbh.. the silence of the lambs, a nightmare on elm street (1984), the ring, the witch, the thing (1982) and a few others are all great, imo.. they are just genres and subgenres of film, that's all.

Saename

The Ring is the best horror I've ever seen. No other movie scared me like this one. I saw it for the first time when I was about 11 or 12 (even though I shouldn't at that age!) It scared the hell out of me. After watching The Ring 2, I had to force myself to actually take a shower. The bathtub scene was too much for the young me. And the TVs... Oh, the TVs... Yup, no other movie scared me like The Ring.

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Does Paul preach a fundamentally different religion than Jesus?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

controversy has arisen regarding jesus versus paul as scholars debate the different emphases and messages of jesus and paul.1 jesus preached the kingdom of heaven.

paul did not.

paul preached justification by faith alone.

Saename

And Ephesians.

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I will only believe in demons if...

by deegee in

jws are known to have an obsession and preoccupation with demons.. this obsession and preoccupation is not without merit given that jesus, his disciples/apostles, and the general public of 1st century ce judea and galilee are reported as believing in the existence of demonic spirits and in the possibility of demon possession of an individual.. exorcism formed a large part of jesus' ministry on earth.

the gospels and the book of acts describe many exorcisms where jesus and his disciples release people from demonic possession.. ___ .

but how do demons get inside a person's brain or body?

Saename

Yeah... Even when I was a JW I was still very skeptical of the existence of demons―mostly because my friends from school didn't believe in them either. Just imagine being this awkward teenager who tells his friends about demons, and then they respond, "What century are you living in? What about mental illnesses? You're a moron."

So I never believed in this particular doctrine. But I was still very embarrassed about the fact that other JWs thought demonic possession was possible.

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Women's March in Germany: Allah Akbar!

by Saename in

i just found something interesting... i found a video of a group of people shouting, "allah akbar!

" while protesting in berlin, germany.

it was the women's march.. praise allah for this one-minute recording:.

Saename

I just found something interesting... I found a video of a group of people shouting, "Allah Akbar!" while protesting in Berlin, Germany. It was the Women's March.

Praise Allah for this one-minute recording:

https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/822966907905146881?s=09

It's fascinating how the West is oblivious to what's going on in the Muslim world... You would've thought they'd figure out by now that the Muslims in the Middle East are killing apostates and forcing women to be submissive as we speak. But, no, it's not Islam. It's politics.

Are you kidding me?

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Morality Without Deity

by cofty in

one of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.

it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.

christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.

Saename

Edit: I'll just shut up. There's no reason to continue to argue about evolution.

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Morality Without Deity

by cofty in

one of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.

it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.

christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.

Saename

cofty - We know from brain scans and from individuals who have suffered injury exactly what parts of the brain are involved in these functions.

It's also worth mentioning that we already have scanned the brains of psychopaths using MRI. These scans show exactly what brain abnormalities psychopaths have. It was found that psychopaths had significantly reduced grey matter volumes in the anterior rostral prefrontal cortex and temporal poles compared to healthy individuals.

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Morality Without Deity

by cofty in

one of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.

it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.

christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.

Saename

John_Mann - If evolution is the cause of our consciousness why it would create something totally unreal like the idea of God? The idea of God is the most pursued idea in human history as we still are talking about it now. Evolution "hates" waste, so why bring such enormous waste of energy in an unreal idea?

Your argument is flawed. You're saying that god must be real because evolution created our consciousness, which in turn created the idea of god. But because there is no reason for evolution to create something unreal, god must be real.

Firstly, the concept of god is not the product of evolution. Evolution "created" brains. Then humans created the concept of god, using their brains, in order to explain why and how they exist. It wasn't the evolution; it was us.

Secondly, evolution does not have intelligence. It can't create anything per se. Evolution is the process by which living organisms adapt to new environmental factors. Hence, the whole question "Why would evolution create something totally unreal like the idea of God?" is completely nonsensical. (Which is why evolution is also not responsible for what we do with our brains—see point #1 again.)

Thirdly, have you not heard of vestigial organs? Humans, and other species, have organs that we don't use. That don't do anything.

Fourthly, humans believe unreal things all the time—things other than god. One of the most important examples one can give is Scientology (since I don't think you're a Scientologist.)

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Brother Hitting on Df'd Brothers Wife at KH

by poopie in

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interesting story i have a friend who is df but his wife still faithfully goes to meetings.

there's a single brother in the cong that is always flirting with his wife.

well at a recent meeting my df friend decided to show up to check this brother out.

Saename

Vidiot - These days, The TATT tends to filter us decent guys out.

BLASPHEMY! It's TTATT, not TATT. The Truth about the Truth. The prophets of ex-JWism shall rebuke you.

By the way, this guy was just outright disrespectful. You don't go after someone's wife (or husband) unless they're separated. And you don't treat disfellowshipped people as if they were dead and their marriage invalid.