Posts by Saename

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Feeling very lonely

by BlackWolf in

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the past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.

the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.

every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.

Saename

It's not really the stress of JW life. It's just being human. We tend to focus on the worst parts of our lives, though rather subconsciously—until one day we decide to focus on the better moments.

If you still need some friends, though, we're still here for you. Rebelfighter lives in Florida as well, so all you need is just ask to meet her. You also have my Skype and Facebook, just in case you ever want to talk to somebody your age. I assume it probably feels uncomfortable for you right now when so many people responded to your topic about feeling lonely. But don't ignore your first instincts that convinced you to create this topic.

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Convention Weirdness

by BlackWolf in

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well i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?

im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.

has that ever happened before?

Saename

pale.emperor - I live on the 4th floor in an apartment block, im screwed. Where am i gonna hide?

In some kind of container made of iron. For some reason, Jehovah seems to be scared of iron.

Judges 1.19: "The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had chariots fitted with iron" (NIV).

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This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

by Miss Worldly in

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ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

Saename

Ding - Jesus didn't distinguish between "anointed" and "other sheep" in his remarks.

You're of course right. But Jehovah's Witnesses disagree for some reason, and this question, I assume, is strictly about the Jehovah's Witness theology. According to them, this scripture is either about the anointed or the other sheep (for some reason.)

But if there's no marriage (romantic relationships?) in the paradise, then I don't know who would want to be there...

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Feeling very lonely

by BlackWolf in

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friends

the past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.

the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.

every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.

Saename

I know your feeling when you stand by the wall in the Kingdom Hall. I've been there before I left. I was feeling alone. However, the problem wasn't that other people weren't interested in associating with me; it's just that I didn't take the initiative to talk to them.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend making friends with Jehovah's Witnesses. You're planning to fade, so they will shun you (even though you're not baptised.) You can go out and meet some non-JW people. As Simon mentioned, it's tough, but it is like a muscle.

Also, in your first post you mentioned you were 15, which would make you around 16 now. I'm not exactly your age, but I'm still young—only 18. I just finished high school in June. If you need a friend in your age range, I'm here. I'll send you a PM with my contact information.

By the way, your dad can't track your Internet history by using the router. That's not what routers are for at all. He could track you by installing a program on your computer, which in turn would save your Internet history. However, considering the fact he was threatening your brothers with the router, I'm guessing he doesn't know anything about tracking. I bet he has no idea how to install a tracking program on your computer, so I'd say you're completely safe.

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This may be a crazy question, but it popped in my head and won't leave. . So I gotta ask. . .

by Miss Worldly in

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ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.

sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.

from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.

Saename

According to JW teaching, death is the end of marriage. If one spouse dies, their marriage is "legally" ended. If, say, the wife remarried and survived into the paradise with her new husband, they would have to remain married unless death or adultery occurs. The resurrected spouse would not have the "right" to be with her, so technically, yes, he would have to pretend to be happy with this.

Right now, there is an ongoing debate among Jehovah's Witnesses whether resurrected people would be able to marry, or remarry, in the paradise. As FreeGirl2006 said, it is possible the resurrected spouse would not be able to marry. However, the contrary is also possible as Jehovah's Witnesses have not yet decided. They are not yet sure as to what one verse, I believe from Matthew, means. In this verse, Jesus speaks of the earthly paradise, heaven, and marriage. Therefore, they don't know whether the rule against being married after Armageddon is in regards to the earthly paradise or heaven.

I had this exactly same conversation with the elders from my area some time ago. All I said above is true for the Jehovah's Witnesses in my city. I'm not sure whether they would have other interpretations in other countries. I live in ON, Canada.

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Brother with a beard on jw.org!

by neat blue dog in

ok, slight exaggeration: specifically, an official recording of the july 25th, 2016 midweek meeting in german sign language downloaded from stream.jw.org, (log-in required), includes a brother with a beard giving one of the talks:.

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Saename

Yes, double standards are practiced. I also wanted to grow a beard but was told I'd look like a Muslim. (Wth?) They argue that in the Western culture (North America, for instance) beards are not appropriate, which is complete bullsh**. All you need to do in Canada is go outside, and you'll see dozens of people with beards, and nobody bothers them in any way. When I was in high school, there were also plenty of Canadian students with beards. Nobody cared. Our culture does accept beards, so I have no idea what the hell is wrong with Jehovah's Witnesses and their brains.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Saename

Brokeback Watchtower - You imaginary friend is pretty untouchable how are you supposed to get him to go to court? Will he just voluntarily go or do we have to send the police after him?

Hopefully he isn't black. A dead god isn't of much use, is he now?

Image result for too soon meme

By the way, when did this conversation about the purpose of life became a fight about whether god is a murderer? There are too many pages of comments here, so I didn't really feel like reading it all... (Maybe tomorrow?)

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Husband Turns Up With Circuit Overseer And Wife!

by disillusioned 2 in

my husband said he would be gone for the day.

the circuit overseer is at their cong and he trying to get brownie points.

i was just chilling watching tv with a cuppa, when i heard a car outside.

Saename

Why are you nervous?

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Daily Legal News: 9th District partially reverses Jehovah’s Witnesses molestation suit - (Zalkin case. Decision mostly in Plaintiff's favor)

by AndersonsInfo in

9th district partially reverses jehovah’s witnesses molestation suit.

tracey blairlegal news reporter published: september 20, 2016. a lorain county trial court erred when it ordered the west congregation of jehovah’s witnesses to produce certain documents for discovery in a child molestation case.. however, the trial court was correct in concluding the majority of documents that were compelled are not protected from disclosure via the clergy-penitent privilege or the first amendment, according to a recent decision by the 9th district court of appeals.. former west congregation member elizabeth mcfarland sued the lorain-based church in 2013 for negligence, ratification and fraud by omission/concealment.. according to case summary, mcfarland was a member of west congregation from 1997 to 2001, when she was 10 to 14 years old.

mcfarland’s parents told church elders that scott silvasy, a fellow member, had molested their daughter for several years.. silvasy died in 2003. mcfarland claimed elders never disciplined him or reported the issue to their superiors, and discouraged her parents from doing so.. in her suit, mcfarland said church elders were aware silvasy had previously molested a minor and was a danger to her.

Saename

As expected, they're still not cooperating. They're still filling appeals...

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This week's WT study article "Keep on the Watch" - the latest dumb article from the Gang That Couldn't Think Straight

by sir82 in

ok so this week's wt study article is entitled "why must we keep on the watch?"..

it is filled with statements on the importance of "being watchful" for the beginning of the "great tribulation".

paragraph 2: “keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.”after that, jesus admonished them repeatedly: “keep on the watch.”.

Saename

neverendingjourney - The thing that bothers me the most concerning this topic is the following:
The last days commenced in 1914
Armageddon didn't come immediately because people had to be warned and given a chance to get good with God before God destroyed the wicked
102 years have elapsed since Jesus' enthronement
What's the point in having a 102 year warning period? All the people who were reached by the Bible Students during the 1910s are now dead. That's especially true for the people who read the Watchtower back in the 1880s.
It seems to me that on its face the reasoning behind the 102 year gap logically falls apart. There is no reason for having a century long warning period.
Couldn't God found a way to warn mankind, say in 10-15 years? Wasn't the early preaching work a waste of time given the fact that those people died before Armageddon. Isn't that like warning your next door neighbors that their house will burn down 100 years from now? Who cares?

Interesting. Never thought of that.