Posts by Saename

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The Great Crowd!

by A Believer in

notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

Saename

I know who the great crowd is. It's China. Just take a look:

Image result for china great crowd

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AUSTRALIA: Jehovah's Witness Malcolm Lee guilty of raping 80-year-old-woman

by jwleaks in

friday 16, december 2016. abc news: malcolm lee, 56, has been sentenced to three years, nine months jail for the attack on the woman, 80, at her home near lakes entrance in march.

during a home massage, organised as a gift by the victim's daughter, lee touched, kissed and digitally raped the woman.

he claimed he believed at the time it was consensual and she was enjoying it.

Saename

Let me get this straight... A 55-year-old man felt tempted to sexually assault an 80-year-old woman? I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be insulting here, but... seriously?!

I suppose these Jehovah's Witnesses are so repressed sexually that they would rape anyone who can't protect themselves. A 10-year-old child. A teenager. An elderly woman.

But still...

...the question I've always wanted to ask...

...is this...

How the hell do they keep their erection?

That's probably not the most appropriate thing one can ask, but... it's been on my mind for so damn long...

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Im Going To Approach A Witnessing Cart Today

by pale.emperor in

the city in which i work is flooded with those witnessing carts.

today im going to approach one of them and pretend i dont know what they believe.

gonna try and record it if i can.

Saename

Yup. The elder knew deep inside it was not scriptural. That's why I suppose he ignored the second part of the question and just said, 'I'm not getting embarrassed.'

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Wow what do you think true story

by poopie in

jw
friends

this is an actual case.

a jw was recently disfellowshipped heres the reason.

he was and elder and regular pioneer at the time baprized 40 years he decides to rent a room from a women who rents rooms out to singles ,he moves in and there's another guy there also renting a room he happens to be disfellowshipped .

Saename

Image result for true story meme

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Survey: Are you Agnostic or Atheist or Christian?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i am agnostic.

i will count how many agnostics, atheists and christians that are reading this forum regularly.

please answer my question.

Saename

Ha! Agnostic atheist. Not many of them around here, eh?

(How I define it: We cannot know for sure whether god exists (agnosticism.) We have no evidence, and, as of now, evidence is impossible to obtain. Because I don't know whether god exists, and because I have no evidence, I have no belief in god (atheism.) It's not that I believe god doesn't exist; it's that I have no belief in god. This is why I can define myself as an agnostic atheist. If you disagree with me on this, it doesn't really matter. It's just a label. My beliefs will still remain the same regardless of how I am labelled—namely that we cannot know whether god exists, that we have no evidence of god's existence, and that I have no belief in god.)

Edit: I should make clear that when I refer to god, I speak of some sort of higher power—not a Christian God, Islamic Allah, or whatever else, just a higher power. Additionally, when I say that I have no belief in god, I mean that I have an absence of belief.

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50 Canadian Towns With Quirky Names

by Saename in

just wanted to share something with you guys!

i found this on the web:.

http://www.readersdigest.ca/travel/canada/50-weird-and-wonderful-town-names-across-canada/.

Saename

Just wanted to share something with you guys! I found this on the web:

http://www.readersdigest.ca/travel/canada/50-weird-and-wonderful-town-names-across-canada/

We Canadians know how to entertain our tourists.

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UK Charity Commission - Latest

by Slidin Fast in

this is a copy of the round robin email sent out today.

i am confident that there is no problem with passing it on.

the wheels grind on, it is good to know that not much gets by these investigators.. dear all, i apologise for not being in contact over the last couple of months, but due to ongoing legal matters our inquiries into watch tower bible and tract society of britain and manchester new moston kingdom hall have been moving at a slower pace than we would have liked.

Saename

Points taken, Ruby456.

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UK Charity Commission - Latest

by Slidin Fast in

this is a copy of the round robin email sent out today.

i am confident that there is no problem with passing it on.

the wheels grind on, it is good to know that not much gets by these investigators.. dear all, i apologise for not being in contact over the last couple of months, but due to ongoing legal matters our inquiries into watch tower bible and tract society of britain and manchester new moston kingdom hall have been moving at a slower pace than we would have liked.

Saename

Ruby456 - cofty it is patriarchal in the sense that Jehovahs wtinesses need brothers to lead

Well, yes, the rule that only brothers can lead the congregation is patriarchal, but that has nothing to do with the two-witness rule.

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devil question

by Carol1111 in

i had a discussion with 4 jws today and they told me that jesus could not be tempted, ( they say that he would not be perfect if he could) but also they told me that satan tempted jesus in the wilderness.. can anyone clarify their beliefs please.

i like to give them a reasoned argument when i talk to them, but have never noticed this conflict of ideas before..

Saename

smiddy - Isnt it true that the Old Testament does not identify" Satan" as any one being ,Angel , God , Spirit being or otherwise ?
The personification of Satan as a fallen Angel is non existent in the Old Testament writings ,it was only introduced in the Christian Era of the New Testament.?
Isnt that correct ?

Yup. At the time when the Old Testament was being written, Jews didn't understand "Satan" as we do now. They thought "Satan" (ha satan) was really just another angel who was accomplishing God's will by being an adversary in the heavenly court. So, technically, the personification of Satan as a fallen angel is indeed non-existent in the Old Testament.

However, this notion was not technically introduced in the Christian era of the New Testament. I think it would be more accurate to say it became highly popularized by Christians, but dualism (because this is what it is—the belief that there are forces of good and evil, angels and demons, God and Satan) was already introduced to Judaism long before Jesus was born. It was the Essenes, the Jewish sect that flourished from second century BCE to first century CE, who placed the cosmic battle between angels and demons, God and Satan, in the centre of their belief system. The notion that Satan was a fallen angel was already being developed before Jesus. Nonetheless, you are right in your conclusion that it has never been the belief of mainstream Judaism, and as such, the Old Testament was never meant to be read the way Christians read it.

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When the CO comes a knocking.

by Thisismein1972 in

i was going to reply to another thread, but thought this might deserve a separate topic.. my observations when i was a still in.. the announcement that jesus christ (the co) is visiting our local kh.. would anyone like to "volunteer" their time, money and accommodation for jesus christ.. all ass lickers of said kh come forward to receive jesus christ.

a concerted effort for all to be out in the ministry that week, along with panicking elders visiting homes of those who have not been at the meetings for at least a week, offering "encouragement" so that the number of attendance is up for the week visit.. the self righteous in the kh who would never speak to you (pioneers included) and look down their noses at you all of a sudden start to speak to you.. during the visit, the elders are on their best behavior, thanking everyone who answers up.

the pioneers are martyring themselves by making cakes and practically washing the feet of the jesus christ.. the attendance does rise, with studies being brought along, to show jesus christ what a good little jw they are.. most indoctrinated jw's practically shoot each other to have a turn on the ministry with jesus christ!.

Saename

I remember being 'encouraged' to go preaching with the CO once during his and his wife's visit. I was still a believer, so I thought, 'Why not? I'm sure I'll learn something from the freaking awesome CO [Jesus Christ]!' So I talked to the CO about going in service together, and he agreed. We then went to preach, and... I was like... what the hell? Sure, he wasn't shy to talk about his faith as some of the brothers. He was confident in preaching, just like me, and the elders, and many of other brothers and sisters. I noticed he was exactly the same. Nothing extraordinary. I couldn't understand why I was being pressured so much into going in service with him. Needless to say, I didn't learn a single thing from him. He wasn't some saint as he was portrayed.