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  2016 Regional Convention - Sunday Morning synopsis

  by Jehalapeno in

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  via reddit.

  here are the morning program highlights.

  will update for the afternoon once it's all over.

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  Dreamerdude

  The report from the first RC looks great! You beat WT. I feel bad for poor 68 that got baptized and had to see the bunker videos the next morning. They got culted. I hope less had to suffer at Long Beach. But some of us have to suffer before we wake up.
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  Did The Witnesses Predict the United Nations in Advance?

  by TD in

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  it's been reported on this forum that bethel speakers at this summer's conventions are asserting that the establishment of the united nations in 1945 was predicted in advance by the witnesses.

  this is being presented as validation of the claim that the witnesses are god's one true organization directed by holy spirit.. .

  the basis for this claim originates with a public address entitled, peace - can it last given by n.h. knorr at the new world theocratic assembly, on september 20 of 1942. .

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  Dreamerdude

  Freddo, thanks for sharing the funeral experience. I can see how some can be manipulated in the same way this summer with the bunker videos.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Dreamerdude

  Lieu, you're right about them making thei stuff up. That's an interestignt bought about young Timothy. I he went apostate about 100AD, along with his children and grandchildren. I wonder about the four daughter of Philip the Evangelist. They were so spiritually strong they could prophesy. I think at least one would want to marry an MSand raise some Christian children and grandchildren. All them must have stopped cold turkey about 100AD, so it would leave room in the 144,000 for all the crazy people that partake today.

  Its possible the estimated 1 million Christians at the end of the first century all turned on Christ at once. But I doubt it.

  This comment sounds like what Paul warned about in Hbrews 13:9 -

  Do not be led astray by various and strange teachings, for it is better for the heart to be strengthened by undeserved kindness (grace) than by foods, which do not benefit those occupied with them.
  
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  Planning for Special Conventions 2016

  by Dreamerdude in

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  do you want to take a trip into the twisted, psychopathic, narcissistic minds of the gb?

  maybe be a fly on the wall at a wednesday morning meeting?

  let's image its 2015 and they're planning the 2016 special conventions.

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  Dreamerdude

  It would be fun to get some party videos on YouTube.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Dreamerdude

  Steve, good points. I can't see how Christ could have used these people to try to accomplish any good. If he did choose them in 1919, he must be disappointed.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Dreamerdude

  Trebor, thanks for the insights into the confusion of WT. That makes it seem worse than the Babel Tower (BT). Its so hard to believe I was caught up in that mess. I wish I could have been saved from the WT sooner. now it looks so comical.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Dreamerdude

  Somehow I missed this silly comment in the WT study las year. I must have been daydreaming. But WT wants to make sure I get the point.

  "After the death of the apostles, Satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries. During that time, there were no sustained efforts to fulfill the commission to make genuine disciples of Christ. But that would all change during “the harvest,” that is, the last days."

  Please help me, you highly spiritual people. Are they saying that Jesus took an 1800 year break and didn't remain with Christians to make sure there was a sustained effort to fulfill their commission? We know that God took a Sabbath break, the JWs say for 7,000 years. But he did that after working for 42,000 years. Is Jesus supposed to take a break so soon after his ultimate sacrifice?

  And when he got back to work in 1914-1919, did he and God really pick Russell and Rutherford as his most trusted Slave? After Russell foretold Armageddon to happen in 1914, based on measurements from the Great Pyramid of Giza?
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  New Bible, In Spanish.... Why taking so long?!

  by Doubtfully Yours in

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  is it possible it's not like they initially said, that it was just having god's name added in places where it had been deleted, and that perhaps they're making more adjustments to it in order to fit our doctrine?.

  come out with the freakin' new bible in spanish already!!!.

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  Dreamerdude

  I can image some Spanish speaking dubs stressing about this. Spanish has been the largest language group in number of publishers for several years. They should really have been first, but they aren't as profitable. I feel kind of bad for the extremely deluded ones. The English RNWT came out in 2013, so the Spanish could reasonably expect theirs in 2014. But nope. Not in 2015 either. But Angola, Brazil, and Portugal got theirs.
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  Planning for Special Conventions 2016

  by Dreamerdude in

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  do you want to take a trip into the twisted, psychopathic, narcissistic minds of the gb?

  maybe be a fly on the wall at a wednesday morning meeting?

  let's image its 2015 and they're planning the 2016 special conventions.

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  Dreamerdude

  Do you want to take a trip into the twisted, psychopathic, narcissistic minds of the gb? Maybe be a fly on the wall at a Wednesday morning meeting? Let's image its 2015 and they're planning the 2016 Special Conventions. Of course they can plan their expenses paid luxury pleasure trips, and keep them tax free to the WT for just about any reason, like visiting any assembly, a branch office, KMS, RTO, or whatever. But the Special Conventions can be another special way to stroke their own narcissism.
  GB1: Well it's time to plan our exotic vacations. Special Conventions are a proven way to extract maximums donations and to get some big green handshakes and serious bling. As with other pleasure trips, one third of the fun is planning, one third is actually going, and one third is reminiscing about it afterwards, even bragging about it later on. How many shall we have?

  Gb2: There are seven of us, so why don't we each pick a place we like?

  1: So are you saying you want to go to Manila again?

  2: No, I'm kind of sick of that filthy place. I was thinking a nice clean place, like Finland. There are so few JWs there we can do the whole country in one weekend. Set up a big convention in Helsinki, with three smaller ones the same weekend in other cities, and tie them in by Internet. Of course we'll include our official language English, so the NY elite don't have to listen to foreign a gauges. We can throw in Russian and Swedish for some of the natives that speak those, and it will make it look a bit international. We can ask them to fix some Swedish meatballs and Russian borscht.

  1: Helpers, you heard him, set it up!

  Helpers: Yes, Brother L, we'll set it up starting June 24.

  gb3: I want to go some place close. You know I'm the oldest and we told everyone on JWTV that I have diabetes. And the last time I went to Paris I had to rely on an angel that looked like Arnold Schwartzenegger to carry my bags.

  1: OK, we'll find some place close for you. But I'm going to Paris. The City of Lights. The City of Love.

  
  It got sickening for me to start getting into their thinking process, so I thought I'd write down a short summary of what the Helpers and their little helpers in the GB travel department came up with:

  
  1) Helsinki, FinlandHelsinki Special Convention starting 2016-06-24, to be held at the Helsinki Messukeskus (Expo and Convention Centre). Languages are English, Finnish, Russian, and Swedish. There will be three concurrent Finnish conventions in the cities of Kuopio, Oulu, and Tampere.

  
  2) Paris, FranceParis (Villepinte) starting 2016-07-29 in French, English, Polish, and Serbian.There will also be two English conventions held starting 2016-07-15 at Marignane (Salle d'assemblées) and starting 2016-08-19 at the Bressols (Salle d'assemblées).
  

  3) Utrecht, NetherlandsStarting 2016-08-05 at Jaarbeurs Utrecht in English, Dutch, Papiamento (Curaçao), Portuguese, and Spanish. There will also be two Dutch conventions held at the same time in the cities of Den Bosch and Zwolle. The only other Dutch convention starts earlier on 2017-06-02 in Congreshal Swifterbant
  

  4) San Juan, Puerto RicoSan Juan, PR 2016-08-26 American Sign Language, English, Spanish Arecibo, PR 2016-08-26 Spanish Ponce, PR 2016-08-26 Spanish

  
  5) Kaohsiung, Taiwan2016 特別區域大會 Special Convention 2016-11-11 高雄國家體育場 National Stadium Amis, Chinese (Mandarin), English, Japanese, Min Nan (Taiwan), Taiwanese SL

  
  6) Nairobi, Kenya2016 Special Convention Series 2016-12-02 English and SwahiliSafaricom International Sports Centre KasaraniRongo Luo 2016-12-02 Luo Rongo-Kuja School for the Deaf 6 more Swahili the same weekNext week 6 more 2016-12-09 Kikamba, Kikuyu, and Swahili

  
  7) Santiago, ChileSantiago Asamblea especial 2016-12-09 English Salón de Asambleas El Trebol. Spanish translated talks too.
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  Mexico ends use of House-to-House Record & Please Follow Up

  by wifibandit in

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  in a letter to all congregations dated april 27, 2016 the central american branch (mexico) has ended the use of s-8-s and s-43-s.

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  Dreamerdude

  Better yet, they could tell the R&F to just stop pestering the good people of Mexico, the UK, Australia and the rest of the world with this nonsense.