Posts by Dreamerdude

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What did NOT get you out?

by problemaddict 2 in

i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.

in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.

i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.

Dreamerdude

There were several things that should have made me decide to leave.

- an older sibling baptized and dfd at at a very young age,

- massive hypocrisy

- the first time I heard an insane rant by Tony Morris, live at a convention.

The first time I listened to Tony I felt sorry for him, since he was obviously suffering from PTSD, from his experience in Vietnam. The second time I heard Tony's rant was the 2014 Annual Meeting broadcast to our KH. That made me realize the wt is managed by lunatics and panicked me into looking for the exit.

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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D

by pale.emperor in

absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.

i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.

i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.

Dreamerdude

PE, I am happy for you and your brother. He left the jw hamster wheel for the best of reasons - doctors orders and to save his own life. No one should criticize him or try to blame anyone.

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Wanting Less Involvement (long newbie story)

by DepthsResounding in

i was raised a jw and am currently pioneer in a foreign language congregation.

i have been unhappy on and off with my involvement in this religion and am ready to step back again.

growing up i was always active but extremely reserved and a low hour publisher.

Dreamerdude

It is good you are calmly looking at all the options. Please continue to be calm and cautious. Perhaps you can glean bits and pieces of advice hear that will help you on your journey to freedom.

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Whats in it for them?

by Moster in

i have been out for nearly 40 years now - baptized at 14 (although not to the org), but faded away.

but i am wondering about this:.

aside from the obvious power they wield, what's is in it for the gb?

Dreamerdude

My opinion is that all seven are completed deluded. Loesch and Morris came in as traumatized young men, and the other five appear to have been indoctrinated since childhood. I also believe they have to be extremely narcissistic to have risen so high in the cult, and that they fully enjoy having the honor and glory due to God pass through them, thus they constantly nag people to pray for them.

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Last of the big conventions?

by NikL in

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had lunch with some friends during today's waste of time convention.

they spoke of the rumor floating around that the jws will move away from these big regional conventions and have them at assembly halls and tie them in to kingdom halls.. they seemed to believe it was a pretty reliable source.. i think it would be too good to be true but who knows?.

anyone else heard this rumor?.

Dreamerdude

Having the longer convention including a Friday requires greater buy-in from the r n f, since they have take a vacation day and sometimes risk being fired. It is also more effective to have longer brainwashing sessions to keep them out of touch with reality. The greater the travel time, expense and sacrifice, the greater the sunk cost becomes.

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Drama is about avoiding materialism. GB has $10k watch in one of the videos.

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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Dreamerdude

Cappytan did a nice youtube video with the title "Would Jesus wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting?" It would be fun to see that inserted on the program at the RCs.

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Never give up!

by stuckinarut2 in

i just wanted to share a quick thread to remind us all to never give up hope that our loved ones who are still mentally trapped in the org may one day wake up.. when i first starting waking up i never thought my wife would also awake.

i have always loved and respected her ability to think and reason, but i assumed that the hold of the organisation would always have its grip on her.. but slowly, and with patience, i shared some things i had learned, and the results have been amazing!.

my dear wife, who posts here under the name "unstuck" is so fully awake along with me.

Dreamerdude

Way to go! Thank you for the encouragement and for posting about your journey. We each have unique situations to deal with, but my situation is similar enough that I can use some pointers from your experience. I dream of the day my wife also comments here.

Thanks to you and all the others who care enough about others to share their experiences here.

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Whatever Happened to the District Overseers? Who Took Over their Responsibilities?

by Village Idiot in

when i was in, during the 1970s, i would see circuit overseers twice a year.

i think there were two occasions when i saw a district overseer give a talk at the hall.

were eliminated as part of a streamlining process but who the hades has taken on their responsibilities?

Dreamerdude

Why pay for DOs when there are plenty of guys who will spy for free, and Bethelites that will do so at no extra charge, except for travel expenses to an assembly hall?

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Whatever Happened to the District Overseers? Who Took Over their Responsibilities?

by Village Idiot in

when i was in, during the 1970s, i would see circuit overseers twice a year.

i think there were two occasions when i saw a district overseer give a talk at the hall.

were eliminated as part of a streamlining process but who the hades has taken on their responsibilities?

Dreamerdude

Even without DOs there have to be ways to check up on the COs to make sure they toe the line. Of course the BOEs could always rat them out, if they were brave enough to contact Bethel directly.

Lately in my area there are several substitute COs. These are the overzealous guys who graduated from BSCC or SKE and make substitute visits to congregations on their own dime. They often tag along with the paid CO for "training". They could also rat out a wayward CO.

Then there are the representatives that are sent from Bethel to give talks at Circuit Assemblies. Of course they have to submit a written report about their spy trip, in which they can also report any missteps the CO might have taken, and of course would be quick to point out any failure to follow the countless rules to the letter.

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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

by OrphanCrow in

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i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

banned.

which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

Dreamerdude

Sad to hear that the Russian court gave the tower more ammunition to abuse their followers with. Mark Sanderson can now leave his posh accommodations in Russia and go back to Warwick as a hero because he took one for the team.

In line with what wonderofyou just said, maybe he can suggest they re-write the Russian version of the Bible Teach book, to eliminate the clearly extremist language in it. They could take out the blood chapter and eliminate references to JW being the only true religion and only means to salvation.