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  New facts from germany

  by crazy_flickering_light in

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  maybe some of you interested in this:.

  between 11/2015 and 05/2016 they merged in germany 48 congs into 24 congs.

  in this time they build 16 language-groups and 3 sign-language-groups.

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  Dreamerdude

  Thanks Crazy light and splash for the interesting data. I hope the Germans donate less.
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  Japanese Still-ins are outraged with this Video

  by nakanozzi in

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  a youtube video posted by jwfairytale , japanese edition.. http://youtu.be/_adktmq-rba.

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  Dreamerdude

  Nakanozzi, thanks for sharing that. The Japanese provide a large part of WT revenue and host a super branch. The are justifiably upset that their money is misused.
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  Any news about changes in the Elder’s arrangement?

  by Hecce in

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  not based on any major reliable information, just spiritual gossip among some very weak spiritually friends.. since the wt has made monumental changes in personnel, including bethel and cos; some are speculating that eventually there will be a cutback in the number of elders in a congregation and a return to the 1930-1970 servant’s model.. i can see some good reasons for this:.

  poor quality among the elders, maybe one or two are really carrying the entire load.

  the merging of the congregations will create a glut of elders strange to each other, the more that they have the more conflicts in the making.. the duties of the elders have been decreasing and most of the decisions are made upstairs.. the pre 1970 arrangement worked really well and it will take the wt less than 1-3 to find a biblical basis to bring it back.. friends, just some saturday morning thoughts.. thanks for reading..

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  Dreamerdude

  While I agree there will likely continue to be a push to remove power from local elders, they need to provide titles to a large percentage of the brothers to keep maximum control. A brother is not fully enfranchised unless he is an elder. And he does not qualify to have sex unless he is a MS.

  A few years ago I heard that elders make up 10% of all publishers in the US, and MS 7%. That leaves about 18% nonservant brothers (baptized pre teens and teens, slackers, those who stepped aside and those who were pushed aside). And 65% sisters.
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  2016 Regional Convention - Sunday Morning synopsis

  by Jehalapeno in

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  via reddit.

  here are the morning program highlights.

  will update for the afternoon once it's all over.

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  Dreamerdude

  The report from the first RC looks great! You beat WT. I feel bad for poor 68 that got baptized and had to see the bunker videos the next morning. They got culted. I hope less had to suffer at Long Beach. But some of us have to suffer before we wake up.
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  Did The Witnesses Predict the United Nations in Advance?

  by TD in

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  it's been reported on this forum that bethel speakers at this summer's conventions are asserting that the establishment of the united nations in 1945 was predicted in advance by the witnesses.

  this is being presented as validation of the claim that the witnesses are god's one true organization directed by holy spirit.. .

  the basis for this claim originates with a public address entitled, peace - can it last given by n.h. knorr at the new world theocratic assembly, on september 20 of 1942. .

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  Dreamerdude

  Freddo, thanks for sharing the funeral experience. I can see how some can be manipulated in the same way this summer with the bunker videos.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Lieu, you're right about them making thei stuff up. That's an interestignt bought about young Timothy. I he went apostate about 100AD, along with his children and grandchildren. I wonder about the four daughter of Philip the Evangelist. They were so spiritually strong they could prophesy. I think at least one would want to marry an MSand raise some Christian children and grandchildren. All them must have stopped cold turkey about 100AD, so it would leave room in the 144,000 for all the crazy people that partake today.

  Its possible the estimated 1 million Christians at the end of the first century all turned on Christ at once. But I doubt it.

  This comment sounds like what Paul warned about in Hbrews 13:9 -

  Do not be led astray by various and strange teachings, for it is better for the heart to be strengthened by undeserved kindness (grace) than by foods, which do not benefit those occupied with them.
  
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  Planning for Special Conventions 2016

  by Dreamerdude in

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  do you want to take a trip into the twisted, psychopathic, narcissistic minds of the gb?

  maybe be a fly on the wall at a wednesday morning meeting?

  let's image its 2015 and they're planning the 2016 special conventions.

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  Dreamerdude

  It would be fun to get some party videos on YouTube.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Dreamerdude

  Steve, good points. I can't see how Christ could have used these people to try to accomplish any good. If he did choose them in 1919, he must be disappointed.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Dreamerdude

  Trebor, thanks for the insights into the confusion of WT. That makes it seem worse than the Babel Tower (BT). Its so hard to believe I was caught up in that mess. I wish I could have been saved from the WT sooner. now it looks so comical.
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  Comment from Examining the WT Daily May 22

  by Dreamerdude in

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  somehow i missed this silly comment in the wt study las year.

  i just have been daydreaming.

  but wt wants tomane sure i get the point.. "after the death of the apostles, satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries.

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  Dreamerdude

  Somehow I missed this silly comment in the WT study las year. I must have been daydreaming. But WT wants to make sure I get the point.

  "After the death of the apostles, Satan fomented apostasy, which flourished for many centuries. During that time, there were no sustained efforts to fulfill the commission to make genuine disciples of Christ. But that would all change during “the harvest,” that is, the last days."

  Please help me, you highly spiritual people. Are they saying that Jesus took an 1800 year break and didn't remain with Christians to make sure there was a sustained effort to fulfill their commission? We know that God took a Sabbath break, the JWs say for 7,000 years. But he did that after working for 42,000 years. Is Jesus supposed to take a break so soon after his ultimate sacrifice?

  And when he got back to work in 1914-1919, did he and God really pick Russell and Rutherford as his most trusted Slave? After Russell foretold Armageddon to happen in 1914, based on measurements from the Great Pyramid of Giza?