There are many twisted things in the org, but the four areas you listed offer the best proof. In my opinion the Russian government's case was strongest when they called the two exjw witnesses, the woman who was shunned for escaping an abusive relationship, and the man who suffered from missing out on a good education.
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JW's are indeed extremists...
by HereIgo inthe current russia ban on jw's accusing them of extremism got me thinking.
at first, i disagreed, only because i am used to our constitutional rights here in the u.s. and feel that individuals should be able to practice whatever religion they prefer, even if i disagree with the teachings.
however, i started thinking of the ways that jw's are in fact extremists and perhaps should be banned.
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Did a current or ex-JW help you to awaken?
by TweetieBird inwas there something that was said to you that got the wheel turning in your brain, that caused you to start waking up to ttatt, either by a jw or ex-jw that you didn't know was awake?
i'm trying to think of things i can say or ask of my current family members still in that may help them to start seeing the real truth about the organization.
they think we're still in..
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Dreamerdude
Jws woke me up and exjws helped me feel good about waking up.
The hypocrisy, blindness, and sometimes cruelty of the members kept me from the deepest levels of delusion. I was able to forgive them, but I was able to make sound decisions about some things.
I went to college.
I did not pioneer.
I did not apply to Bethel.
The one jw who helped me the most was Tony Morris. I saw him give a talk in 2012. I felt sorry for him because of his obvious PTSD from Vietnam. But I was shocked no one cut the mike on him or even objected to his insanity. Then I saw him addressing the whole English speaking world in the 2014 Annual Meeting. It was de ja vu, with no one jumping up to stop his crazy rant. I realized I was paralyzed by mind control, so I could not object either. I assume the other GB agree with him. That woke me up and shocked me. But the exjw community and fellow PIMOs have helped steady my nerves.
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Dreamerdude
This reminds me of the ghouls who wait to pounce at you in the Halloween haunted houses. You might expect the the guy hiding between the carts to jump out at you and spit cheetos in your face.
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Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study
by doubtfull1799 in“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.
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4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.
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Dreamerdude
I have been trying to thank of comments that will wake people up to the cold hearted attitude of the Watchtower. Here is what I said today for one of the review questions:
"Since the Government and charities take care of the material needs of refugees before we ever see them, we need to focus our efforts on helping them with their emotional and spiritual needs."
The sad part is that it fit right in with the tone and content of the parroting session.
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Where were the present GB members in 1975 and their ages the
by Lostandfound in42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.
blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.
i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.
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Dreamerdude
It would be absurd to imagine a 10 year old Mark Sanderson drinking wine.
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Where were the present GB members in 1975 and their ages the
by Lostandfound in42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.
blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.
i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.
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waton, sorry I don't know when each of these guys started claiming to be special, but Gerrit Loesch did indicate in the biography he narrated for wt that he was anointed in 1968.
Here is how he put it:
We got married a year later, in April 1967, and we were allowed to continue in the traveling work together. The following year, I realized that by Jehovah’s undeserved kindness, he had adopted me as a spiritual son. Thus began a special relationship with my heavenly Father as well as with all those who, according to Romans 8:15, “cry out: ‘Abba, Father!’”
It's funny how he explained why he lost faith in the Catholic Church, as follows:
The Roman Catholic teaching of apostolic succession claims that there is an unbroken succession of popes in a line extending all the way back to the apostle Peter. (The church misinterprets Jesus’ words that are quoted at Matthew 16:18,19) Catholicism also claims that the pope is infallible in matters of doctrine when he speaks ex cathedra, or in an official capacity. I believed this and thought that if the pope, whom Catholics call Holy Father, is infallible in doctrinal matters and has proclaimed the Trinity to be true, then it must be true. But if he is not infallible, then the doctrine may be false. No wonder that for many Catholics the teaching of apostolic succession is the most important teaching, since the correctness or incorrectness of other Catholic teachings hinges on it!
I wonder how he cannot see that this undercuts his authority to control others.
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Where were the present GB members in 1975 and their ages the
by Lostandfound in42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.
blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.
i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.
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Dreamerdude
The current 7 GB see themselves as being very special indeed. A few years ago they stopped sharing the limelight as the Slave with the growing thousands of remnant on earth. These 7 humans call the shots, and they can even ignore Jesus. But in heaven, as waton points out, they will be part of a much larger group, most of which did not have the privilege of controlling millions of humans. But they still expect to be very special, satisfying their narcissistic desires. For now, they don't want people to remember how wrong the GB was in 1975, and how wrong they were to go along with the charade.
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Where were the present GB members in 1975 and their ages the
by Lostandfound in42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.
blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.
i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.
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Dreamerdude
Yes, the denial of 1975 is incredible. In 1975 the current GB would not have had any expectations of rising as high as they have. The old order was supposed to end.
When the governing body became the Governing Body in 1971, the 18 members were just picked by Knorr and Franz, to add to the 5 wt corporate officers. All of those original 18 are dead. The longest serving member now is Loesch, since 1998. The method for picking new GB members is no more legitimate than it was back then. They basically scout the world to see if there are any deluded men in the branches, COs, or missionaries that claim to have been hearing voices. Then they invite them to HQ, observe them, and see if they will fit the club. Holy Spirit has nothing to do with the process.
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THOUGHTS OF CHAIRMAN ANTHONY MORRIS III
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inwe decided to add the graphic showing my name and position so that you are all made aware that i'm a big cheese among jehovah's witnesses.
for example, i'm not backward about being forward!
so when i made a speech against wearing tight pants some thought i'd be deleted from the governing body!
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Dreamerdude
And if you feel the need to confirm any of the things I just said, ask my brother. If you hear him answer, let me know. But only if you have a penis. We might call you to Bethel to replace Sammy or Gerry 'cause they're getting old. If we pick you to join the shepherd club, we'll fit you for designer suits and bling, so you can Lord it over the sheep too.
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Where were the present GB members in 1975 and their ages the
by Lostandfound in42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.
blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.
i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.
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I am sure they all remember the hype and are complicit in trying to deceive and whitewash history.
Herd is the oldest. He was 40 in 1975 and a full time recruiter.
Loesch was 35, already "anointed", and was a Gilead trained Missionary.
Splane was 32, a Gilead trained missionary.
Lett was 28, son of a CO, claiming to be anointed since age 19, and a Bethelite.
Morris was 25, newly recruited and baptized in 1971 in the frenzy leading up to 1975, pioneering and raising a young family. This might have added to his PTSD from the Vietnam War.
Jackson was 20, having been baptized as a child, dropping out of high school, pioneering from his teens, and married in time to have sex before Armageddon.
Sanderson is the youngest, but baptized very young at age 9 in 1973. His deluded parents might understand all of this best, since they likely were anxious to get him baptized before his destruction in fall 1975. At age 11, he would have believed anything the adults told him.