Posts by Spoletta

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

Spoletta

In my congregation, I could put together an all woman Elders Body that would far outshine what we have now. Intelligent and compassionate, but not pushovers.

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

You've all pretty much summed up my thoughts on the subject. My wife said that at a recent CLAM there was a part that praised the women's abilities, and that there might be exciting news regarding that in the near future. Then, afterwards, an elder was talking to her and almost "let slip" the secret.

Like I said, she keeps hoping that there will an excuse for her to remain loyal, even though she realizes there's a lot of bad stuff going on.

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Young People Ask... When Can I Start Dating?

by pale.emperor in

quite possibly the most annoying and patronizing thing i've read in years.

comments of mine are in yellow.. .

she doesn't trust herself to make her own decisions and she's going to wait years even after she thinks she's ready.

Spoletta

Or to avoid the whole problem, you can marry the 19 year old brother who works for your Dad as soon as you turn 17, and both move in with your parents, as one young girl did in our congregation.

To give the Elders credit, they strongly counseled against this, and wouldn't allow the wedding to take place in the Kingdom Hall. However, their hands were tied as it was all legal. The parents congratulated themselves for saving their kiddies from the perils of dating.

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Cooking With Cast Iron

by Simon in

i can't even remember what got me interested in pans, probably wanting to try cooking more and watching some cooking videos on youtube, but i kind of started wanting to get a cast-iron skillet specifically so started reading up on them.

hey, if you're going to spend $50 on something you need to study them and create a comparison spreadsheet ... right?.

not only did cast-iron look great for cooking but there are some studies that show risks to aluminium / teflon cookware ... not that the wts was "right" about aluminium, but teflon can give off carcinogenic chemicals if overheated (so what if it chips off into your food?).

Spoletta

Have an old Griswold 11 1/4 inch Iron Skillet and wouldn't part with it. And if you like camping, there's nothing like a good cast iron dutch oven for a variety of cooking styles, and if you have a bag to keep it in, you don't need to clean the soot off the outside.

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

Spoletta

My wife has been trying to convince me that the Organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants. She is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the Org may become more progressive in the future. Anyone else pick up on this?

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JW requesting food assistance to Babylon the Great.

by sp74bb in

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barcelona (spain), jan 8, 2017 at 1.30 pm.

two publishers of the tagalog group in barcelona (public meeting at 4.30 pm) do visit an evangelical church barcelona downtown to receive free food bags.... i can confirm that the queue was long.

the pastor in charge of this church has not allowed me to take picture of some older jw living barcelona downtown, but i was able to catch these young publishers.

Spoletta

Last Sunday, in the usual criticism of "the world" during the talk, the elder on the podium actually spoke of Christendom's insignificant attempts to make the world a better place, compared to the life-saving work of the Witnesses. I almost laughed out loud!

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The Antikythera Mechanism -

by fulltimestudent in

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shorter version - shared from the openculture wwebsite:.

how the world’s oldest computer worked: reconstructing the 2,200-year-old antikythera mechanism.

- in astronomy, history, technology | january 13th, 2017. http://www.openculture.com/2017/01/how-the-worlds-oldest-computer-worked-reconstructing-the-2200-year-old-antikythera-mechanism.html.

Spoletta

I've seen other mentions of this. It just shows that there have always been brilliant people around.

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Supremes Face Bombshell: Law Censoring Christian Counsellors

by Hecce in

wnd exclusive.

supremes face bombshell: law censoring christian.

the u.s. supreme court has been handed a bombshell: an appeal of a lower-court ruling that banned christian counselors from talking with teens about the biblical standard for sexuality.. the case challenges laws that force licensed counselors to affirm homosexuality, prohibiting them from helping clients overcome same-sex attractions.. such laws have been adopted in new jersey, where a biased judge used it to shut down a christian ministry, and in california and other states.. the case already was presented to the supreme court several years ago, but it did not get a ruling.. now a new appeal has been submitted by the pacific justice institute on behalf of two religious leaders in california and a student who was considering going into counseling.. the appeal argues affirmation of the state regulation by the 9th u.s. circuit court of appeals ignored the fact that when lawmakers were arguing over the law, many, if not most, of their comments were specifically about religion and conservatives.. get “takedown,” and learn how the american family and marriage are being sabotaged by the ideas of extreme-left radicals, starting with karl marx.. the appeal contends it’s unconstitutional to base a law on religious or anti-religious viewpoints.. “california’s lawmakers saturated the analyses with references, summations and quotes (at times without attribution) taken directly from the apa report [on counseling to overcome same-sex attractions],” the appeal states.. “a review of the apa report leaves no doubt that religious conservatives are those typically seeking soce [sexual orientation change counseling] – and those whose beliefs the legislature seeks to change.

Spoletta

The real problem I have with Christian Fundamentalists, is that any mention of the LGBT community that isn't condemnatory, is seen as "promoting" it. DJS is correct that studies have shown conversion therapy to be a failure, with many individuals being psychologically harmed from the attempt to change their orientation.

The political agenda of the LGBT groups is little different from that of the Civil Rights movement. All of us are equal, and deserve the same rights and freedoms, no more or less than anyone else.

Of course there are always those in whom Political Correctness preempts common sense(the reaction to the teacher's remark in British Columbia was ludicrous). However, in the case of Prof. Peterson, I don't see how asking you to be sensitive to someone's preferences in gender-neutral pronouns is an infringement of your free speech rights. Being a male, I would prefer not to be called Miss or Mrs. Many transgender or gender-neutral people would simply like to be addressed by the terms they associate with themselves. No big deal.

Anyway, as DJS also said, If certain Christian groups didn't have this irrational fear of sexual orientation, this problem wouldn't exist. We'd all be much happier.

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Hypothetical Memo to the G.B. From the Writing Committee

by The Searcher in

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dear glorious ones, we feel certain that our statement in the february 2017 watchtower - "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction" - will assuredly save each one of you from taking a bullet this year when the australian royal commission and the u.k. charities commission's findings are made public and inflict punitive measures on the organization for its historical failure to weed out pedophile and to protect children.

if the minions are challenged, they now have a ready-made conversation stopper and can show it to dissenters on their electronic devices.