atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
To Finkelstein
How about answering what was posted.
Let's see if I can understand this. An all-powerful, all knowing, being that created all from nothing, [nothing also includes the absence of empty space] put it all into motion finely tuned, somehow does not qualify because an asteroid, one upon a time, impacted earth?
Why?
· if religions were immune to division.
· if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.
· if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.
To venus
Science: No place for supernatural beliefs, Does not accept godmen or anybody unquestioningly, No miracle in science, Based on Method of Science, Makes testable predictions, Science is dynamic – evolves continuously, In science, truth is not somebody’s opinion. It can be verified, tested and validated. Built-in correction present, Questioning is one’s fundamental right, Scientists do not have any hesitation to admit that they don’t know, International, Unites the people, Guided by logic.
None of this is etched in stone. They all have one flaw, the honesty of the ones involved, and over the years I noticed one common thread. Most will not sacrifice either their prestige or position to go against what has been accepted by the majority of Academia.
Something else you should think about. Science is good but science is limited. Science tells us that if we give grandma poison she will die, but science does not tell us why it is wrong to give grandma poison.
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
To Village Idiot
Rather save my money, After reading multiple pro evolution books I noticed they all had a common thread. It was more speculation and imagination than science. I believe the following would address your book.
So let’s start with something easy. Proving that only Intelligence could have created life.
What kind of information does DNA have? What kind of information must the origin of life researcher ‘explain the origin of’? Webster defines information as ‘the attribute inherent in and communicated by alternative sequences or arrangements of something that produces specific effects.’ A block of binary code in a software program is information. DNA contains alternative sequences of nucleotide bases that produce a specific effect; therefore DNA contains information. DNA sequences are improbable and specifically arranged to perform, this is functional information similar to CAD – CAM. Now the question becomes not what is the origin of life but the origin of biological information. Where did the information to build the first living organism come from? Let’s bring cause and effect. If an effect has only one known cause then the presence of the effect is enough to support the presence of the cause. The only known cause of information is intelligence.
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
Finkelstien
This information refutes the claim by yourself that the omniscience creator is an intelligent creator which you positionally hold.
Let's see if I can understand this. An all-powerful, all knowing, being that created all from nothing, [nothing also includes the absence of empty space] put it all into motion finely tuned, somehow does not qualify because an asteroid, one upon a time, impacted earth. Similar to an doctor treating someone for pneumonia being disqualified because his patient coughed.
It is a pretty bad and weak argument. Sounds more like a spoiled child complaining.
2 peter 1 = deity of christ.
2 pe.
1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .
To Cofty
Is this the best you can do? God is a God of love but also a just God. There would be no value if there was no justice. When God ordered Joshua to kill all the inhabitants He was using Israel as His tool to dispense justice. Why not argue the flood where God killed everything minus what was in the ark. Because in Joshua's account, the ugliness of sin is experienced. Now since I was in Joshua's army, and having experienced all the miracles from Egypt to then, and having seen how powerful God is, I would not hesitate to obey.
Why just dwell on this? This is between God and the inhabitants of those cities. If you are arguing that then you can and should bring into the equation, God offering you eternal life with no physical strings attached. Similar to winning the lottery and refusing to accept it based on a foolish argument favoring convicted criminals.
2 peter 1 = deity of christ.
2 pe.
1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .
To Fukitol
Atheist or Agnostic?
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
To Finklestien
So an asteroid impacted with earth. How does this prove there is no God?
2 peter 1 = deity of christ.
2 pe.
1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .
To Rebel
I agree. I believe that when I start a thread its my responsibility to answer each post. With all that happens in life, as of now the only time I have to dedicate to this barely covers my threads. in the future i will look at other threads.
2 peter 1 = deity of christ.
2 pe.
1:1 simon peter, a bondservant and apostle of jesus christ, .
To Cofty
Again I answered you several times. The proper thing to do is to continue the discussion from there. You keep going back to square one as if you are hold the smoking gun. Come on follow the program
Let me help you out. Go back to where I first answered you about slavery and God using Israel as an instrument to dispense His justice.
atheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
To Finklestien.
Your too full of yourself Watchtower people leave out of a lack of engaging honest discussion and this happens quite often when debating theism or personal beliefs.
I have to ask, “why is are so many posters here suffering from fecal encephalopathy?” Just for the record I am an ex JW. If you are going to insult at least get it right.
Think about this for a minute....... its known and accepted that asteroids are moving about the universe and some over time have hit earth causing catastrophic damage to all living things on this planet, ie. the end of dinosaurs.
If another large asteroid was on route to collide with earth and it was known that all life on earth was to be destroyed once again, would it still make logical sense to proclaim that a intelligent designer / deity created the universe ?
It would not make logical sense if and only when the asteroid collides and kills all life.
