10%
25%
33%
50%
Additionally - If this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.
(e.g. CSA-ARC / UN Membership / Malawi - Mexico contrast / etc.)
Would those leaving be higher?
additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.. (e.g.
csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).
would those leaving be higher?.
10%
25%
33%
50%
Additionally - If this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.
(e.g. CSA-ARC / UN Membership / Malawi - Mexico contrast / etc.)
Would those leaving be higher?
hilarious,enjoy.found on reddit.
this should set the mood for the weekend !.
zing.
Glad that is an overlapping Kilt.
additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.. (e.g.
csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).
would those leaving be higher?.
Additionally - If this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.
(e.g. CSA-ARC / UN Membership / Malawi - Mexico contrast / etc.)
Would those leaving be higher?
additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.
csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).
would those leaving be higher?.
Additionally - If this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.
(e.g. CSA-ARC / UN Membership / Malawi - Mexico contrast / etc.)
Would those leaving be higher?
the money grab continues!!
at a very recent circuit assembly (usa), the accounts overseer gave the typical accounts report for the ca in the early afternoon.
there were 2100 people at the assembly.
just a little fyi 900 attendance.
2 kids baptised and $12000.00 in the hole.
( not my assembly).
At the assembly hall in the South East I attend has a budget requirement (Expenses incurred at this assembly) Totaled $30,000.00 with an attendance of 2,100 or so...
The Elders were not happy about this and the Circuit Chairman explained to the audience that these funds were for other areas less fortunate and not a direct cost reflection of our assembly.
I actually appreciated the transparency...
It is still a TITHE no matter how you try to spin it though...
HP
this is my first post.
i am physically in and mentally out.
well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.
Thanks! I wish there was a safe way to find out who is PIMO in the hall or in circuit or in the state. I know I can’t be the only one.
this is my first post.
i am physically in and mentally out.
well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.
For some reason I cannot create new topics - I emailed the admin but nothing yet.. so I'm hungry to tell more and get more feedback:
SO-
If the shunning rule were rescinded, how many would leave?
10% -20% - 30% More?
Dream scenario: Everyone is made aware of all the wrongs, the false prophecies / CSA problem / Double Standards -
and they would not shun, how many would jump ship?
My parents are fully aware of the sins of the Org. yet they insist on it being a choice of lesser of the the evils and echoing the sentiments of Peter who said ' Lord who else shall we go to'
So maybe not many..
What say you....?
so here is something else that helped me wake up -.
the elders manual - shepherd the flock of god contains a special caveat for elders who have committed adultery some time ago (not sure how many years, 'some time ago' is, but probably based on a complex formula of donations and # of assembly parts given.).
but basically, they can just get a talking to by 2 brothers and then they can keep on keeping on.
I was removed for far less sins - and it was due to the recency of it, despite my continued exemplary conduct and field service meeting attendance. So yes Blondie is correct.
so here is something else that helped me wake up -.
the elders manual - shepherd the flock of god contains a special caveat for elders who have committed adultery some time ago (not sure how many years, 'some time ago' is, but probably based on a complex formula of donations and # of assembly parts given.).
but basically, they can just get a talking to by 2 brothers and then they can keep on keeping on.
Great point SL, this is so true.