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My Lord spoke and told me to post

by watersprout in

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my lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.. i know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. i will accept whatever you feel you need to say.. here goes.

i heard a voice calling ''my child'', this happened while at the zoo so i was taken off guard!

i replied ''who is this?

startingover

I was hoping someone would comment on Witness My Fury's post:

The statement that unless it involved LOVE the words of the LORD to you would be false is incorrect. There's plenty of killing and ethnic cleansing going on in the OT directly quoted from the LORD, to go killing men women, children and even their animals.

So you're saying that Moses and Abraham etc should have listened to their conscience instead of the LORD? The fluffy fuzzy cuddly NT LORD was there then too you know when all that killing was going on egging them on. ......So when he says KILL in YOUR ear....you'd better bloody well do it OK?

Seems to me Abraham's situation is totally getting ignored by you voice hearers.

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To new non-believers to JWN (they need guidance too)

by cyberjesus in

i wanted to make a few comments to those of you that have recently begun to question or have already left the wt and made their way onto this site.

this site is a great resource to learn how others are coping with leaving the organization and moving on into a fulfilling life.. i wanted to write this post because i think reading something like this would've been helpful to me to understand where a lot of people that comment on this site are coming from.

"who hold the truth in unrighteousness.

startingover

Good job Cyber J

There was an informal survey done on here once, don't know if I could find it now, but it indicated that the large majority of people born into the JW religion will most like become non beleivers when they figure out they were mislead. Those that hop into some other belief system were already in one when they left it to become a JW.

I think those statistics speak volumes.

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My Lord spoke and told me to post

by watersprout in

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my lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.. i know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. i will accept whatever you feel you need to say.. here goes.

i heard a voice calling ''my child'', this happened while at the zoo so i was taken off guard!

i replied ''who is this?

startingover

In the opening post, WS said:

My Lord spoke to me for the first time yesterday and this morning he told me to post my experience.

I know there are going to be ones who will call me names and thats ok. I will accept whatever you feel you need to say.

So it appears you got what you were expecting (although those who you say mock you don't consider it that) But you don't seem to be accepting it very well.

You know, it's interesting as I had never heard the name ''Jaheshua Mischajah'' before and so I Googled it. There were only 3 pages of hits Google came up with, and almost every one of those was from JWN, and apparently it originated with Shelby as she was tied into it on another forum as well as this one. And now you find it necessary to end your posts the same way she does. Do you two have some kind of a connection that no one else in the world does?

Did you know how to spell that name for the opening post? If I had a voice say that name to me I would have immediately googled it, if I could have figured out how to spell it, and the results that I got when I did it just now would have made me realize that something was possibly wrong in my head. Just something to think about.

I also wonder if people in China or India who hear voices have it come from a christian based god. I would be willing to bet they hear voices from the gods of their cultures.

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To new Christians on JWN

by brotherdan in

i wanted to make a few comments to those of you that have recently begun to question or have already left the wt and made their way onto this site.

this site is a great resource to learn how others are coping with leaving the organization and moving on into a fulfilling life.. i wanted to write this post because i think reading something like this would've been helpful to me to understand where a lot of people that comment on this site are coming from.

you are going to hear from a wide range of people that have moved on to a diverse range of beliefs.

startingover

Just want to say that I feel there may just be some being that started all we see around us, but I am sure that being is not the god of the bible. That's why the bible means nothing to people like me.

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To new Christians on JWN

by brotherdan in

i wanted to make a few comments to those of you that have recently begun to question or have already left the wt and made their way onto this site.

this site is a great resource to learn how others are coping with leaving the organization and moving on into a fulfilling life.. i wanted to write this post because i think reading something like this would've been helpful to me to understand where a lot of people that comment on this site are coming from.

you are going to hear from a wide range of people that have moved on to a diverse range of beliefs.

startingover

So Brotherdan, you said...

So can atheists REALLY have contentment in their belief (or unbelief)? They will claim that they are content. There are all kinds of people that try to find contentment in just about everything imaginable. But REAL contentment only comes from knowing God.

REAL contentment? Only from knowing god? It appears that some find it necessary to live in a fantasy world to get by, but some of us can't do that and therefore are faced with reality.

And then you add this...

And I think there are a large percentage of atheists that throw away God so that they don't have to have guilt for sinning.

Think you could be wrong about this? Ever consider that some of us prefer to live reality based lives, as much as that can sometimes cause discomfort?

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November 2010 Awake! about "new atheism"

by processor in

what's actually the difference between this .... .

... and this picture?.

why is this marcher evil .... .

startingover

Podo

It takes greater faith to be a true Atheist.. my simple mind thinks there is too much beauty in this world for their not to be a Creator/Designer

Wow, what a sentence. The first part couldn't be more wrong, and the second part, well all I can say is it says alot about you and your thinking process.

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In the past, FAKE newspaper coverage of WT "International Conventions" in the US

by AndersonsInfo in

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many people that post or lurk here at jwn are too young to remember some of the huge international conventions jws held many years ago, but probably have seen impressive photos such as of the 1958 eight-day convention held simultaneously at new yorks yankee stadium and polo grounds.

especially remarkable was the tremendous newspaper coverage of that assembly and other special conventions held in the 1940s and 50s in the united states.

yesterday, when i downloaded somebodys old scrapbook full of long-ago newspaper articles, http://www.archive.org/details/watchtowernewsscrapbook,reporting on jehovahs witnesses so-called international conventions, i couldnt help but remember what i wrote regarding extraordinary newspaper convention coverage in my www.freeminds.org article, how jehovahs witnesses watchtower religion impacted my family history, part 3 and thought id share the information here on jwn for those who are not familiar with how such wonderful coverage came about.

startingover

My dad was the Public Relations Servant for our local circuit and also for the District Conventions. As a child I remember going 2 weeks early to the convention site every summer so he could do the PR work and get all the press releases sent out in preparation for the convention. I remember the big bulletin board at the conventions where all the clippings from the local and surrounding newspapers were displayed after coming out in print.

I also remember that he indeed did write these releases and I remember conversations about the coverage and how good it was. The only complaint I remember, and it was a big one for me, was what happened occasionally with my dad's picture. Since he was the big wig congregation servant, his picture would usually go with the press release to our local paper as it did with every congregation servant thoughout the circuit, and sometimes they would slip in the title Rev. under his picture. It was hard enough growing up as a JW, but to be known as a preacher's son on top of that was really hard for me to deal with.

This info about the "Special Editions" is new to me. And at this point not surprizing anymore. Thanks Barbara so much for posting it.

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There is no such thing as an agnostic

by startingover in

i think judith hayes says it well:.

http://www.thehappyheretic.com/02-10.htm.

startingover

I think Judith Hayes says it well:

http://www.thehappyheretic.com/02-10.htm

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Do you REALLY believe Ezekiel laid seige to a brick 390 days?

by Terry in

in ezekiel the 4th chapter one of the most ludicrous passages in the bible tells us god commanded his prophet ezekiel to lie on his left side in a mock seige against a.....brick!

for how long?

390 days!.

startingover

No Tammy, picking and choosing is exactly what you are doing. You of course can pretend otherwise because after all you have to, to continue believing as you do.

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The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?

by Essan in

there are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.

these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.

what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.

startingover

You would enjoy this book

http://www.captivesofaconcept.com/